Obama: 'We Don't Believe Anybody Is Entitled to Success in This Country'

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I'm sorry,I fail to see the problem.

One must work for success. What's wrong with that?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm sorry,I fail to see the problem.

One must work for success. What's wrong with that?
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The dumb part was the piece about growing middle out. Last time it was bottom up. Anything to keep from admitting that trickle down is reality.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm sorry,I fail to see the problem.

One must work for success. What's wrong with that?
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If you believe you have to work for success then you'd be on the right side of the isle....... But instead you support the guys giving out free stuff, creating less incentive to work. Come on LG......
 
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People aren’t entitled to “success”, but they’re entitled to:

ObamaPhones
ObamaFood
ObamaHousing
ObamaTransit
ObamaCare
ObamaEverythingelsetheycouldpossiblyneed
 
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tumscalcium said:
If you believe you have to work for success then you'd be on the right side of the isle....... But instead you support the guys giving out free stuff, creating less incentive to work. Come on LG......
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I've worked very hard for what I have done. Built our firm from the ground up. Many sacrifices, many long long hours, days, weeks,and years.

Doesn't mean I can't see the bigger picture and the longer term.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I've worked very hard for what I have done. Built our firm from the ground up. Many sacrifices, many long long hours, days, weeks,and years.

Doesn't mean I can't see the bigger picture and the longer term.
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No you didn't, the government did.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I've worked very hard for what I have done. Built our firm from the ground up. Many sacrifices, many long long hours, days, weeks,and years.

Doesn't mean I can't see the bigger picture and the longer term.
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You'd like think you did. But you didn't build it.
 
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I think when Obama closed with "everyone should get a fair share" at the debate was a much bigger gaffe than this.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I've worked very hard for what I have done. Built our firm from the ground up. Many sacrifices, many long long hours, days, weeks,and years.

Doesn't mean I can't see the bigger picture and the longer term.
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You didn't build that
 
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“Spreading the wealth” is EXACTLY entitling people to success, even if it is mediocre success.

My God, please deliver us from this nightmare.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I've worked very hard for what I have done. Built our firm from the ground up. Many sacrifices, many long long hours, days, weeks,and years.

Doesn't mean I can't see the bigger picture and the longer term.
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Somebody else built that...you had. help
Bho
 
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I don't think anyone is entitled to anything. If you want something you have to go and get it. I just hate that word, entitled.
 
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^^Everyone is entitled to the OPPORTUNITY for success. Sadly I think Obama meant nobody deserves success.
 
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Volmaverick is the type that if Obama told him he had a beautiful smile he would pull out his teeth.
 
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hog88 said:
^^Everyone is entitled to the OPPORTUNITY for success. Sadly I think Obama meant nobody deserves success.
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Well yes, in that sense. I believe in the pursuit of happiness and breathing and crap like that so in that sense I guess I believe in certain entitlements, but just not what you constantly hear about socially.
 
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hog88 said:
Sadly I think Obama meant nobody deserves success.
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Do you really believe that? Really?
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I certainly do. If you say that someone deserves their success then I find it nearly impossible to state that someone does not also deserve the fruits of their success.

Yet, if you say that someone deserves the fruits of their success, then you are saying that someone has a valid claim to their wealth. Taking that money, against their will and backed with the threat of force (this is what law is), is absolutely unjust if the money is rightfully theirs (i.e., they have a valid claim to it).

If you say that they do not fully deserve their success, then you could argue that they do not have a claim to all the fruits of their success. In such a case, some of their wealth is not theirs by valid claim; the government confiscates and does no injustice to said person.

For the record, I think that anyone who believes in income taxes either has to accept that the tax is unjust (but, maybe necessary) or has to believe that individuals do not deserve all of their success (that is, they owe a portion of their success to others, society, and the government).
 
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