Obama's Final Betrayal

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utgibbs

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Astute observers knew what it meant when Obama raised up (again) Larry Summers et al to be his economic advisors. Clinton and Gore achieved what Bush Sr and Bush the Lesser could only dream: NAFTA and the repeal of Glass-Steagal simply the icing on a rich cake of policy betrayals. One wonders if the Palin flagship is being supported in order to make the Republicans irrelevant since the Democrats are far more able to push through unpopular policy. Better to divide the Republicans and force them into an unwinnable position, and allow the Democrats to push forward the true hegemony of Faux Capital.

And now with Obama we continue a proud legacy: Never have so many given so much to so few.

It is manifestly disappointing, and thoroughly expected. One cannot help but recall Toynbee and reflect we are truly upon the debased, debauched arc of our culture spiraling to our final collapse.

Let us hope the end is not bloody, but history does not bode well for such a prediction. Sad and dark times indeed - even without the bitter and frightful Wikileaks reminders and the abyssmal reliance on failed models at COP16 in Cancun.
 
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I used to be able to translate pedantic drivel, what I think gibbs is saying is that Obama appears to have given up his slide into socialism and he is lamenting the fact that the recent "global warming" summit in Cancun was another failure for Teleprompter Jesus.
 
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The tax deal Obama has continued a policy where never have so many given so much to so few. It's a policy betrayal of staggering proportions, especially given these are the people who have in fact engineered the economic crisis.

The problem though is systemic; Faux Capital is unsustainable. Real Capital was unsustainable! But now Obama is agreeing to subsidize Wall Street ad infinitum. He has paved the way to pirate - Pinochet style - Social Security. He has agreed to bankroll the Welfare Dads.

These are sad days. Completely expected, and still very sad.
 
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utgibbs said:
The tax deal Obama has continued a policy where never have so many given so much to so few. It's a policy betrayal of staggering proportions, especially given these are the people who have in fact engineered the economic crisis.

The problem though is systemic; Faux Capital is unsustainable. Real Capital was unsustainable! But now Obama is agreeing to subsidize Wall Street ad infinitum. He has paved the way to pirate - Pinochet style - Social Security. He has agreed to bankroll the Welfare Dads.

These are sad days. Completely expected, and still very sad.
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Agreed. Its absurd the top 1% of this country has to pay for the rest of us.
 
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utgibbs said:
The tax deal Obama has continued a policy where never have so many given so much to so few. It's a policy betrayal of staggering proportions, especially given these are the people who have in fact engineered the economic crisis.

The problem though is systemic; Faux Capital is unsustainable. Real Capital was unsustainable! But now Obama is agreeing to subsidize Wall Street ad infinitum. He has paved the way to pirate - Pinochet style - Social Security. He has agreed to bankroll the Welfare Dads.

These are sad days. Completely expected, and still very sad.
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I assume you mean the Umployment Insurance? That's part of the bill that takes money from one group and gives it directly to another.

The extension of tax cuts is not giving anything to anyone. It is taking less from one group than it otherwise would have which is fundamentally different than giving someone something.
 
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droski said:
Agreed. Its absurd the top 1% of this country has to pay for the rest of us.
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Then you, my friend, are not a believer in Adam Smith.

In addition, you are addled beyond recognition - WE the People are supporting the Top 1% and the corporations. That's the real world happening outside your front door.
 
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volinbham said:
I assume you mean the Umployment Insurance? That's part of the bill that takes money from one group and gives it directly to another.

The extension of tax cuts is not giving anything to anyone. It is taking less from one group than it otherwise would have which is fundamentally different than giving someone something.
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Never have so many given so much to so few.
 
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utgibbs said:
Then you, my friend, are not a believer in Adam Smith.

In addition, you are addled beyond recognition - WE the People are supporting the Top 1% and the corporations. That's the real world happening outside your front door.
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that's idiotic. go get a better job and stop your biatchin.
 
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utgibbs said:
Then you, my friend, are not a believer in Adam Smith.

In addition, you are addled beyond recognition - WE the People are supporting the Top 1% and the corporations. That's the real world happening outside your front door.
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You should be ashamed.
 
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Gibbs, look at this chart provided by the IRS.
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The top 1% do pay a disproportionate amount more.
I'm not taking up for the rich bastards, but facts are facts.
 
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utgibbs said:
You should explain yourself.
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utgibbs said:
Then you, my friend, are not a believer in Adam Smith.

In addition, you are addled beyond recognition - WE the People are supporting the Top 1% and the corporations. That's the real world happening outside your front door.
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Im sure in some way you have contributed to the 1%.

You help make them. Not the government.
 
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utgibbs said:
Astute observers knew what it meant when Obama raised up (again) Larry Summers et al to be his economic advisors. Clinton and Gore achieved what Bush Sr and Bush the Lesser could only dream: NAFTA and the repeal of Glass-Steagal simply the icing on a rich cake of policy betrayals. One wonders if the Palin flagship is being supported in order to make the Republicans irrelevant since the Democrats are far more able to push through unpopular policy. Better to divide the Republicans and force them into an unwinnable position, and allow the Democrats to push forward the true hegemony of Faux Capital.

And now with Obama we continue a proud legacy: Never have so many given so much to so few.

It is manifestly disappointing, and thoroughly expected. One cannot help but recall Toynbee and reflect we are truly upon the debased, debauched arc of our culture spiraling to our final collapse.

Let us hope the end is not bloody, but history does not bode well for such a prediction. Sad and dark times indeed - even without the bitter and frightful Wikileaks reminders and the abyssmal reliance on failed models at COP16 in Cancun.
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Wait... you extol ad nauseum the virtues of Keynesian, centrally controlled economic directives then whine when the powerful reward their allies?

The answer utgibbs was stuffed in your face weeks ago. If you want a healthy economy with integrity that will not allow political payola then you MUST reduce the size, scope, and influence of the Federal gov't. It must once again become an impartial referree doing nothing more than protecting rights and enforcing rules without bias.

Be careful what you ask for... you just might get it... and you did.
 
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utgibbs said:
The tax deal Obama has continued a policy where never have so many given so much to so few. It's a policy betrayal of staggering proportions, especially given these are the people who have in fact engineered the economic crisis.
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My Lord... he actually got one right. Progressive/Keynesian/liberal policies like 3 years of unemployment and "you get a house even if you really can't afford it" put us in this mess... and this "deal" trades a permanent increase in that idiocy for a temporary extension of the tax cuts.

The problem though is systemic; Faux Capital is unsustainable. Real Capital was unsustainable! But now Obama is agreeing to subsidize Wall Street ad infinitum. He has paved the way to pirate - Pinochet style - Social Security. He has agreed to bankroll the Welfare Dads.

These are sad days. Completely expected, and still very sad.
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Yet you still can't see the philosphy that led to these things, can you? The only "fix" to this problem is to dissolve it and its causes. These problems are a natural, predictable, and unavoidable product of the centralization of political and economic power in Washington... yet you think that's the solution.
 
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utgibbs said:
Then you, my friend, are not a believer in Adam Smith.

In addition, you are addled beyond recognition - WE the People are supporting the Top 1% and the corporations. That's the real world happening outside your front door.
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ALL TAXES ARE ULTIMATELY PAID BY THOSE WHO CREATE WEALTH... pretty much without regard to their level of wealth or income. Raising taxes on ANYONE involved in that production of wealth to give to those not involved or arbitrarily to those whose value to that production is less... will only make the problems worse.

You probably believe that unemployment pay is good for the economy, don't you? You believe the eggheads who say it is the "best thing to improve the economy and unemployment", huh?

The way you fix the problem is NOT to divide a diminishing pie in different ways. You fix it by making the pie larger. That requires MORE contributors even if they don't get the pay they used to. It requires LESS DEPENDENTS/DEPENDENCE on gov't transfer payments. It means fewer bureaucrats and admin types and more manufacturing workers, miners, architects, programmers, and salesmen.

You have doggedly determined the very ideals that created the problems you now lament.
 
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sjt18 said:
ALL TAXES ARE ULTIMATELY PAID BY THOSE WHO CREATE WEALTH... pretty much without regard to their level of wealth or income. Raising taxes on ANYONE involved in that production of wealth to give to those not involved or arbitrarily to those whose value to that production is less... will only make the problems worse.

You probably believe that unemployment pay is good for the economy, don't you? You believe the eggheads who say it is the "best thing to improve the economy and unemployment", huh?

The way you fix the problem is NOT to divide a diminishing pie in different ways. You fix it by making the pie larger. That requires MORE contributors even if they don't get the pay they used to. It requires LESS DEPENDENTS/DEPENDENCE on gov't transfer payments. It means fewer bureaucrats and admin types and more manufacturing workers, miners, architects, programmers, and salesmen.

You have doggedly determined the very ideals that created the problems you now lament.
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read and memorize.
 
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sjt18 said:
Wait... you extol ad nauseum the virtues of Keynesian, centrally controlled economic directives then whine when the powerful reward their allies?

The answer utgibbs was stuffed in your face weeks ago. If you want a healthy economy with integrity that will not allow political payola then you MUST reduce the size, scope, and influence of the Federal gov't. It must once again become an impartial referree doing nothing more than protecting rights and enforcing rules without bias.

Be careful what you ask for... you just might get it... and you did.
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What are you talking about? The country is rolling BACKWARDS. Bankruptcy is the new "wealth"?????

Pouring a three trillion (QE1) and (QE2) to support the Welfare Dads is a healthy economy?

Epic Fail and Epic Facepalm. Demonstrating a deep need to look outside the front door and soak up the real world. And that ain't MTV.

Eye Yii Yii. :facepalm:
 
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