Obama's racism shines through in NAACP speech

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NEW YORK -- President Barack Obama told the nation's oldest civil rights group that prejudice and discrimination aren't the steepest barriers for the black community and urged his audience Thursday night to focus on education and good parenting to improve the lives of the next generation.

"Government programs alone won't get our children to the Promised Land," Obama said in a speech to the 100th convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in New York. "We need a new mind-set, a new set of attitudes."
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Really? Where is this 'Promied Land' for Blacks? I suppose when this nation is in shambles like Zimbabwe, their 'Promised Land' will have been reached.

"One of the most durable and destructive legacies of discrimination is the way that we have internalized a sense of limitation," he said. The black community has "come to expect so little of ourselves."
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It's Evil Ol' Whitey's fault we don't have high expectations.

The nation's first black president bluntly warned, though, that racial barriers persist.

"Make no mistake: The pain of discrimination is still felt in America," the president said in honoring the organization's 100th convention.
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Obama faced such unbearable discrimination, he became POTUS.

Rousing up a friendly crowd, Obama made his first speech so directly linked with race since he took office; the White House says he worked on it for about two weeks. Implicit in his appearance is the fact that he is seeking the backing of the powerful NAACP and its members for his ambitious domestic agenda.
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I am here to pander and kiss your ass. Support me, and the handouts are on the way.

The president said that in the current down economy, blacks are suffering high unemployment and are afflicted with more diseases but are less likely to have health insurance.
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I'll bet those diseases were genetically engineered by Evil Ol' Whitey.

He said that the African-American child is about five times as likely as a white child to be sent to jail.
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Whitey has some nerve. Lock our children up for carjacking, rape, murder, and other such frivolous things.

Obama to NAACP: We need a new mind-set
 
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Elections have consequences.
Many are wondering "what the hell have we done" right about now.
Next time the Republicans can't let the media choose their candidate.
 
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How much of your commentary is a joke and how much your opinion, Savage? Is your problem that you don't buy a word that he is saying? Because, I don't see that much wrong with what he has said...so I presume you are saying that what he is saying is BS and your commentary is what you think he really thinks?

As for his racism shining through, I don't really see it. There may be some here and there that you could pick out and I might agree with....but overall it doesn't strike me as racist...and certainly not racism shining through. When you read his statements, is all you get out of it racism?
 
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TennTradition said:
How much of your commentary is a joke and how much your opinion, Savage? Is your problem that you don't buy a word that he is saying? Because, I don't see that much wrong with what he has said...so I presume you are saying that what he is saying is BS and your commentary is what you think he really thinks?

As for his racism shining through, I don't really see it. There may be some here and there that you could pick out and I might agree with....but overall it doesn't strike me as racist...and certainly not racism shining through. When you read his statements, is all you get out of it racism?
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He is playing the race card to pander to the NAACP. Playing that same routine, "poor pitiful us, Evil Ol' Whitey's victims".

His statement about Blacks being more likely to be jailed than Whites was the capper. The insinuation was clear. Somehow this is the fault of Whites.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
He is playing the race card to pander to the NAACP. Playing that same routine, "poor pitiful us, Evil Ol' Whitey's victims".

His statement about Blacks being more likely to be jailed than Whites was the capper. The insinuation was clear. Somehow this is the fault of Whites.
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I know that you know it is the truth that they are more likely to end up in jail, and your problem is that it appears that he is blaming whites for it. I only read your quotes and haven't listened to the speech, so maybe he did imply it. However, I would rather think that his points about needing a new mind set and overcoming the internalized sense of limitation are true. It is also true that at some level, racism exists.

There are obviously some problems here. The poorest areas are often filled with black people, the jails are filled with young black men. Did they do something that they deserved to get jailed for - almost always. However, that is still a problem. Is it evil whitey keeping them down? I don't know how often, but I don't think that is usually it. There is something else flawed. Is it government welfare programs enabling the behavior? Maybe...I don't know. But, I don't disagree with the president's statements about needing a new mindset and not internalizing an oft repeated notion of "this is the best I can do."
 
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Agree TT,

The guy is a racist and his association with guys like Rev Wright attest to it. Nonetheless, he approaches from the standpoint of addressing the issue realistically and places blame on everyone's doorstep.

He knows that he will expand our garbage government programs, but he's also pointing the finger back at the NAACP in saying that accepting the implied limitations is a lick on you - on us. Get off your asses and start educating / parenting rather than sitting back and expecting guys like me, or any POTUS, to help.
 
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Don't you realize he has to cater to the masses if he plans on getting a second term.
And if "the Barrack star" was to eliminate Government programs you could bet that the crime rate would increase at an astronomical rate. And yes it would be blamed on Ol' Whitey.
 
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TennTradition said:
I know that you know it is the truth that they are more likely to end up in jail, and your problem is that it appears that he is blaming whites for it. I only read your quotes and haven't listened to the speech, so maybe he did imply it. However, I would rather think that his points about needing a new mind set and overcoming the internalized sense of limitation are true. It is also true that at some level, racism exists.

There are obviously some problems here. The poorest areas are often filled with black people, the jails are filled with young black men. Did they do something that they deserved to get jailed for - almost always. However, that is still a problem. Is it evil whitey keeping them down? I don't know how often, but I don't think that is usually it. There is something else flawed. Is it government welfare programs enabling the behavior? Maybe...I don't know. But, I don't disagree with the president's statements about needing a new mindset and not internalizing an oft repeated notion of "this is the best I can do."
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Yes, he is blaming Whites. He's backdooring the accustion, but the message is clear.

There is another problem surfacing in America. I'll use Chattanooga as an example. Black's standard of living has risen over the years. What are we seeing in Chattanooga? Gangs, drive by shootings, carjackings and other crimes normally associated with poor neighborhoods, are now happening in middle class neighborhoods. No longer are the thugs confined to the ghetto. Are Whites to be blamed for this, or do we lay the blame on the doorstep of the Black community?
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
Yes, he is blaming Whites. He's backdooring the accustion, but the message is clear.

There is another problem surfacing in America. I'll use Chattanooga as an example. Black's standard of living has risen over the years. What are we seeing in Chattanooga? Gangs, drive by shootings, carjackings and other crimes normally associated with poor neighborhoods, are now happening in middle class neighborhoods. No longer are the thugs confined to the ghetto. Are Whites to be blamed for this, or do we lay the blame on the doorstep of the Black community?
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At least you're entertaining.
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SavageOrangeJug said:
:)

BPV, unfortunately I'm serious. Areas of this town that look middle class by day, are as dangerous as the ghetto when the sun goes down.
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There was an article posted a while back about a similar problem happening in Memphis, though I do not know if the cause is the same. Housing communities were being demolished and the residents were being moved into better neighborhoods. Unfortunately, the crime followed.

This is why Obama's words about changing a mindset and accepting that "you can do better" are worthwhile comments to make. He isn't just saying...let us give you more money, better housing, etc. and all your problems will be solved...he is pointing a finger back and saying "you" have to do something too.
 
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TennTradition said:
There was an article posted a while back about a similar problem happening in Memphis, though I do not know if the cause is the same. Housing communities were being demolished and the residents were being moved into better neighborhoods. Unfortunately, the crime followed.

This is why Obama's words about changing a mindset and accepting that "you can do better" are worthwhile comments to make. He isn't just saying...let us give you more money, better housing, etc. and all your problems will be solved...he is pointing a finger back and saying "you" have to do something too.
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MLK said the same thing. We see how that has worked out over the past 40 years.

Organizations like the NAACP perpetuate the 'victim syndrome'. That's what keeps them in business. When I see Obama pandering to them, I take his comments as pure lip service.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
MLK said the same thing. We see how that has worked out over the past 40 years.

Organizations like the NAACP perpetuate the 'victim syndrome'. That's what keeps them in business. When I see Obama pandering to them, I take his comments as pure lip service.
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One could certainly make the argument that it is lip service, but it is better than the alternative of publicly buying into the mantra....
 
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>He said that the African-American child is about five times as likely as a white child to be sent to jail. <

this is a tricky statement by the barockstar.

it sounds to me like he is saying that if a black and a white both commit the same crime under the same circumstances, it is 5x more likely that the black will go to jail while the white skates, the only variable being the color of their skin.

i'd like to know what he bases this conclusion on. if it is the fact that there are currently more blacks in jail than whites, that conclusion is an enormous stretch.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Agree TT,

The guy is a racist and his association with guys like Rev Wright attest to it. Nonetheless, he approaches from the standpoint of addressing the issue realistically and places blame on everyone's doorstep.

He knows that he will expand our garbage government programs, but he's also pointing the finger back at the NAACP in saying that accepting the implied limitations is a lick on you - on us. Get off your asses and start educating / parenting rather than sitting back and expecting guys like me, or any POTUS, to help.
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Exactly how I saw it. I think the original poster's commentary is over-the-top, and shoving meanings into the POTUS' mouth that simply weren't there.

It's that sort of ridiculousness that hurts the cause against some of Obama's policies, but being irrational about it.
 
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IPorange said:
Exactly how I saw it. I think the original poster's commentary is over-the-top, and shoving meanings into the POTUS' mouth that simply weren't there.

It's that sort of ridiculousness that hurts the cause against some of Obama's policies, but being irrational about it.
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The idiocy of Obama's policies are what is hurting their 'cause'.

The fact that some people refuse to wear the rose colored politically correct glasses, has not hurt the Obama 'cause'......yet.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
The idiocy of Obama's policies are what is hurting their 'cause'.

The fact that some people refuse to wear the rose colored politically correct glasses, has not hurt the Obama 'cause'......yet.
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I didn't express myself very well. I am saying YOU hurt your own cause by being over-the-top kooky about Obama. There was nothing racist about his statements. Far from it, he was calling for more personal responsibility within the black community.

I am not a democrat and I didn't vote for the man and I don't like really any of his policies. But there was nothing racist here.
 
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Exactly,

I'm glad that a man of color has the ability to go to the NAACP and express to him his concerns for more needed accountability in my community.

I didn't see this racism that you are looking for AT ALL.
 
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I think what Obama should be worried about here is that W. expressed the same sentiment with his "subtle bigotry of lower expectations" commentary.


Seriously, nothing racist about Obama's comments here.
 
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rjd970 said:
It doesn't surprise me one bit gsvol endorses the commentary in the OP.
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Your point?

Obama compared the Black incarceration rates to Whites for one reason. To pander to a racist crowd. That in itself is racist.

Let me guess, some of you don't think the NAACP is racist?
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
Your point?

Obama compared the Black incarceration rates to Whites for one reason. To pander to a racist crowd. That in itself is racist.

Let me guess, some of you don't think the NAACP is racist?
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Look at some of the stuff gsvol actually posts and if you still can't see my point, I can't help you.

I didn't see anything racist about Obama's comments. I think you're reaching with this one. And really, I can't say that surprises me either.
 
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rjd970 said:
Look at some of the stuff gsvol actually posts and if you still can't see my point, I can't help you.

I didn't see anything racist about Obama's comments. I think you're reaching with this one. And really, I can't say that surprises me either.
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It really doesn't surprise me that have a problem with my comments.

Does it surprise you that I really don't give a rat's ass if you like them or not? :hi:
 
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