Offense vs Defense Heisman.

#5
#5
Glenn Dorsey had a case in 2007, imo, jmo, iyam, gbo, but he wasn't even close in the actual voting. Defensive guys should win the Heisman more often.
 
#10
#10
They do.
The Chuck Bednarik Award, named for the College and Pro Football Hall of Famer, is given annually to the College Defensive Football Player of the Year.
 
#12
#12
bmfcox said:
They do.
The Chuck Bednarik Award, named for the College and Pro Football Hall of Famer, is given annually to the College Defensive Football Player of the Year.
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I think it should get more pub, I'm a defensive guy so I'd like to see the defensive award get noticed.
 
#14
#14
Coach Grizz said:
I think it should get more pub, I'm a defensive guy so I'd like to see the defensive award get noticed.
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I think RGIII winning it might be a step in the right direction. The biggest complaint people had over the last ten-fifteen years is that it was for "the QB/RB on the best team in the country" and not the most outstanding player. If voters this year were willing to step outside of the box a little and award it to a guy from Baylor, maybe they could soon get to a point of recognition of primarily defensive players.
 
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#17
Well...it should go to defensive players more, considering the best player in college football does not play offense every single year. And that is a fact. I'm really not sure why there is such an offensive bias, either. Defense is half of the game. And judging from the majority of the championship winners over the years, it is more than half of the game, considering the dominant defensive teams with "capable" offenses win more often than teams who have it the other way around.

People are just so intrigued with touchdowns, yards, and stats over all. Good coverages, lights out hits, forcing a QB into getting rid of the ball quicker than he wants, imposing your will. None of it shows up on the stat sheet. A defensive player has to be either extremely versatile (Charles Woodson), or has to dominate in a manner that is record breaking (such as sacks, ints, etc.) in order to even garner mention, let alone have a decent chance at winning a heisman. I don't agree with it, because I do not believe that the heisman trophy truly signifies the best player in college football with the way it is currently given. But it's just the way it is.
 
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#19
orangepridenation said:
Well...it should go to defensive players more, considering the best player in college football does not play offense every single year. And that is a fact. I'm really not sure why there is such an offensive bias, either. Defense is half of the game. And judging from the majority of the championship winners over the years, it is more than half of the game, considering the dominant defensive teams with "capable" offenses win more often than teams who have it the other way around.

People are just so intrigued with touchdowns, yards, and stats over all. Good coverages, lights out hits, forcing a QB into getting rid of the ball quicker than he wants, imposing your will. None of it shows up on the stat sheet. A defensive player has to be either extremely versatile (Charles Woodson), or has to dominate in a manner that is record breaking (such as sacks, ints, etc.) in order to even garner mention, let alone have a decent chance at winning a heisman. I don't agree with it, because I do not believe that the heisman trophy truly signifies the best player in college football with the way it is currently given. But it's just the way it is.
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So, what are your thoughts on Mathieu's being included in this years Heisman contention? Should or should not character count?
 
#20
#20
KoachKletus said:
So, what are your thoughts on Mathieu's being included in this years Heisman contention? Should or should not character count?
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I thought he was definitely worthy of his New York invite. The character of a player will always be a question, and naturally, will have an impact. I don't see much of a problem with that, as long as voters don't get too caught up in it, and start overlooking players who actually performed better, but just didn't appear quite as "saint-like" as one in particular.
 
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