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I've seen where some question coach Jones offensive style. That the spread will not work in the SEC. I was wondering, what is the difference from the offense Jones uses from the offense that Urban Meyer used with Tebow and the Gators. It seemed pretty effective in the SEC.
 
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The "Spread" system that Jones' will run at UT will depend on his QB. With Tebow, Florida's offense was geared more towards the run as Tebow was not and still is not a very effective passer. If Worley ends up winning the job then I believe the offense will be geared more towards the pass as he does not seem to be an effective runner. Ideally a good run/pass combo QB, to thich many think Peterman can be, would make it a more balanced spread offense.
 
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WooleyDooley2010 said:
The "Spread" system that Jones' will run at UT will depend on his QB. With Tebow, Florida's offense was geared more towards the run as Tebow was not and still is not a very effective passer. If Worley ends up winning the job then I believe the offense will be geared more towards the pass as he does not seem to be an effective runner. Ideally a good run/pass combo QB, to thich many think Peterman can be, would make it a more balanced spread offense.
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What about Riley Ferguson ... he is a pro-style dual threat qb. Would he work in this offense?
 
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How will this offense be that much different from what we ran this year? As I understand it (not an X and O's expert) but we've been running no huddle, mostly in shotgun with 3, 4 (not often 5) receivers. Also, as I understand it you can have a spread offense and not utilize a running QB.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
I've seen where some question coach Jones offensive style. That the spread will not work in the SEC. I was wondering, what is the difference from the offense Jones uses from the offense that Urban Meyer used with Tebow and the Gators. It seemed pretty effective in the SEC.
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Don't forget about Auburn and South Carolina.

People claim the spread won't work in the SEC because they're ignorant.
 
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Catbone said:
Hello? A&M?
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Lol impossible! Nick Saban eats the spread offense for lunch, breakfast, and dinner! He could never lose to such an inferior style of play!

Why would anyone want to use all 160ft of the football field on offense? It's not like putting your best players in space and creating 1 on 1 opportunities would be beneficial, right?
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
I've seen where some question coach Jones offensive style. That the spread will not work in the SEC. I was wondering, what is the difference from the offense Jones uses from the offense that Urban Meyer used with Tebow and the Gators. It seemed pretty effective in the SEC.
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Urban had a lot of loaded backfield sets before Holgorsen started the diamond set craze. Helps when he had Percy and Aaron Hernandez. Urban was never as fast in design as some of the other offenses are -- Chip Kelly, Tony Franklin, Neal Brown, etc. Passing game is similar. Meyer had a really simple system. Mostly horizontal stretches. Spacing, all hitches (called lightning), all slants (called lion), option routes in the middle of the field. He had two concepts called Follow and Panther. Follow is basically Drive with the Y running the shallow instead. He would combo that with pivots. Panther is his name for mesh. Other stuff like smash, curl/flats from empty. I expect Jones to have more vertical stretches if he retained anything from Brian Kelly. Kelly might be the biggest proponent of shallow crosses guy not named Mike Leach. Meyer ran a little bit of everything running wise. Veer, power, counter, counter-trey, iz/oz, zr, speed option with shovel toss. I think CBJ is more along the pure zone lineage with Rich Rod. Urban Meyer visited with Chaney (Yes, that Chaney), Tiller, Linehan, Rich Rod, Kevin Wilson at NW -- now at IU when he was at Bowling Green. A lot of what Kelly and BJ run passing wise is branched off of the vertical stemmed stuff that Linehan and the Erickson/Tiller crew were advocates of. A lot of similarities.
 
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bam15 said:
Urban had a lot of loaded backfield sets before Holgorsen started the diamond set craze. Helps when he had Percy and Aaron Hernandez. Urban was never as fast in design as some of the other offenses are -- Chip Kelly, Tony Franklin, Neal Brown, etc. Passing game is similar. Meyer had a really simple system. Mostly horizontal stretches. Spacing, all hitches (called lightning), all slants (called lion), option routes in the middle of the field. He had two concepts called Follow and Panther. Follow is basically Drive with the Y running the shallow instead. He would combo that with pivots. Panther is his name for mesh. Other stuff like smash, curl/flats from empty. I expect Jones to have more vertical stretches if he retained anything from Brian Kelly. Kelly might be the biggest proponent of shallow crosses guy not named Mike Leach. Meyer ran a little bit of everything running wise. Veer, power, counter, counter-trey, iz/oz, zr, speed option with shovel toss. I think CBJ is more along the pure zone lineage with Rich Rod. Urban Meyer visited with Chaney (Yes, that Chaney), Tiller, Linehan, Rich Rod, Kevin Wilson at NW -- now at IU when he was at Bowling Green. A lot of what Kelly and BJ run passing wise is branched off of the vertical stemmed stuff that Linehan and the Erickson/Tiller crew were advocates of. A lot of similarities.
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Can we get this in English for us mortals? :)
 
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bam15 said:
Urban had a lot of loaded backfield sets before Holgorsen started the diamond set craze. Helps when he had Percy and Aaron Hernandez. Urban was never as fast in design as some of the other offenses are -- Chip Kelly, Tony Franklin, Neal Brown, etc. Passing game is similar. Meyer had a really simple system. Mostly horizontal stretches. Spacing, all hitches (called lightning), all slants (called lion), option routes in the middle of the field. He had two concepts called Follow and Panther. Follow is basically Drive with the Y running the shallow instead. He would combo that with pivots. Panther is his name for mesh. Other stuff like smash, curl/flats from empty. I expect Jones to have more vertical stretches if he retained anything from Brian Kelly. Kelly might be the biggest proponent of shallow crosses guy not named Mike Leach. Meyer ran a little bit of everything running wise. Veer, power, counter, counter-trey, iz/oz, zr, speed option with shovel toss. I think CBJ is more along the pure zone lineage with Rich Rod. Urban Meyer visited with Chaney (Yes, that Chaney), Tiller, Linehan, Rich Rod, Kevin Wilson at NW -- now at IU when he was at Bowling Green. A lot of what Kelly and BJ run passing wise is branched off of the vertical stemmed stuff that Linehan and the Erickson/Tiller crew were advocates of. A lot of similarities.
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Meyer also meet with Alex Gibbs. He ran a lot of zone option, zone bash option, and pin n pull zone (looks a lot like bucksweep for anyone who played in the wingt).

Cripes! Get back to fundamentals...: Alex Gibbs: Stretch/Gun Run Developments (Part 1)

This is one of the best links ever. It's about 3 hours of the master himself, Alex Gibbs, teaching Urban Meyer how to run the zone.
 
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