Oh the joys of universal health care.

[gsvol]

Once again, we have to ask:

Do we really want to use the British system as the model for a U.S. health care regime?



A liberal wakes up to liberalism: "President Obama's team, unlike Bush's team, demonstrates a thinness of skin that shocks me. When I somewhat obviously and empirically judged that the populist Obama administration is exacerbating the crisis with its budget and policies, as evidenced by the incredible decline in the [stock market] averages since his inauguration, I was met immediately with condescension and ridicule rather than constructive debate or even just benign dismissal. I said to myself, 'What the heck? Are they really that blind to the Great Wealth Destruction they are causing with their decisions to demonize the bankers, raise taxes for the wealthy, advocate draconian cap-and-trade policies and upend the health care system? Do they really believe that only the rich own stocks? What do they think we have our retirement accounts in, CDs? Where did they think that the money saved for college went, our mattresses?" --MSNBC's Jim Cramer

"There are a lot of people out there who are desperate. There's a lot of desperation out there. Today I want them and the people like them across this country to know that I have not forgotten them." --Barack Obama

"It was hard for me to believe that you were entirely serious about that socialist question." --Barack Obama to New York Times reporters who dared ask such a thing about his policies

"We've actually been operating in a way that has been entirely consistent with free-market principles. ... The fact that we've had to take these extraordinary measures and intervene is not an indication of my ideological preference, but an indication of the degree to which lax regulation and extravagant risk taking has precipitated a crisis." --Barack Obama

"If coming in (when he took office) the market was doing fine, nobody would be happier than me to stay out of it. You know, I have more than enough to do without having to worry about the financial system." --Barack Obama

(Uh, do they ever crack a history book at Harvard????, American history teaches us that we periodically have recessions and the less government interferes, the sooner the economy recovers.)

"Never waste a good crisis ... Don't waste it when it can have a very positive impact on climate change and energy security." --Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

"Many of us are hoping that all those in power fail, because those in power have a grating habit of being annoyingly self-righteous, hopelessly corrupt, resolutely incompetent and completely apathetic about the freedoms that they have sworn to protect. Embrace the failure. It's patriotic." --columnist David Harsanyi

 

[KingNick865]

The quotemaster strikes again.

 

[gsvol]

The quotemaster strikes again.

I can't tell you how much I'm impressed with your originality.

Thanks for your unsolicited praise and let me ask, what do you think of the British socialized medicine program.?

The part where the government can't afford to give you a life saving medicine and won't let you buy it on your own because that might set a bad precedent appears to be excellent doubleplusgood duckspeak, wouldn't you say.

Speaking ducks, do you think they could swim straighter if they had rudders on their asses and if so, what about when the are on land, would the rudders be a drag???

 

[Vol Mania 21]

the kid's 18, he's still on his mommy and daddy's insurance. he doesn't have a clue on this subject

 

[KingNick865]

the kid's 18, he's still on his mommy and daddy's insurance. he doesn't have a clue on this subject

What's wrong w/not having to pay for your insurance until you're 23 years old?

 

[MG1968]

What's wrong w/not having to pay for your insurance until you're 23 years old?

nothing, just realize how much you're leaching from their retirement savings and make plans to pay them back by providing their insurance for 23 years

 

[gsvol]

Last week, President Barack Obama convened a health-care summit in Washington to identify programs that would improve quality and restrain burgeoning costs. He stated that all his policies would be based on rigorous scientific evidence of benefit. The flagship proposal presented by the president at this gathering was the national adoption of electronic medical records -- a computer-based system that would contain every patient's clinical history, laboratory results, and treatments. This, he said, would save some $80 billion a year, safeguard against medical errors, reduce malpractice lawsuits,............


The basis for the president's proposal is a theoretical study published in 2005 by the RAND Corporation, funded by companies including Hewlett-Packard and Xerox that stand to financially benefit from such an electronic system. And, as the RAND policy analysts readily admit in their report, there was no compelling evidence at the time to support their theoretical claims. Moreover, in the four years since the report, considerable data have been obtained that undermine their claims. The RAND study and the Obama proposal it spawned appear to be an elegant exercise in wishful thinking.