OK CPF bashers

[volinbham]

Can you honestly say that Texas A&M is a top ten program? That to me is the definition of a big time program. While I loved the plastering that we gave Texas A&M, I don't equate beating them in the Cotton Bowl to beating a top tier team in a BCS bowl.

I was referring to your analogy that essentially indicated being favored has little to do with a team's overall position in the football world. The fact that TAMU was favored in that game says people thought very highly of them at that point in time. Currently, I do not think that TAMU is a top ten program.

 

[JasonCajun]

Probably some complacency over the last few years - not excusing it but this is a pretty natural phenomenon in human behavior.

As I've stated before, I also believe he was distracted by the Gallion stuff over the last 2 years or so. That is pretty much gone so he can get back to addressing the complacency issues.

I think the ranking of "new" coaches that was posted a couple of weeks ago tells the real story. Once you got past Spurrier and Weiss, maybe Miles and Meyer; this list was a bunch of nobodies with mediocre records. I continue to believe that Fulmer has been and can be one of the top coaches in the country. Obviously, more performances like this year will call that into question.

I think he can be one of the best coaches in the country, too. I don't think he is a particularly great motivator or X's and O's guy, but he does know how to recruit and when he surrounds himself with good people this program can be awesome. Just the past few year it has seemed like he has rested on his laurels too much and hasn't been proactive enough in fixing glaring problems before they became catastrophic.

 

[jakez4ut]

I think he can be one of the best coaches in the country, too. I don't think he is a particularly great motivator or X's and O's guy, but he does know how to recruit and when he surrounds himself with good people this program can be awesome. Just the past few year it has seemed like he has rested on his laurels too much and hasn't been proactive enough in fixing glaring problems before they became catastrophic.

ost-20645-1119625378: well said.

 

[VolBeef88]

I don't really care about what happened 30 years ago or even 10 years ago in the definition of a big time program. USC, Texas, Oklahoma weren't big time 10 years ago. Alabama hasn't been for over 10 years but are getting back there it looks like. Notre Dame wasn't in 2004 and under Davies, but Weiss has them back. Joe Pa was in a slump at Penn State and they were forgettable the last few years until this year. Nebraska was big time 10 years ago and aren't now.

Francioni (sp?) was looking to escape from Alabama with the sanctions and all the other stuff going on. You know that as well as I, and he was looking for the first big school that would take him.

Point is, Texas A&M may have been bigtime at one point, but they aren't now. They weren't when we played them or they wouldn't have been playing us in the Cotton Bowl.

1st, I thought ATM was not a big time school? Second ATM was not the only school after him. And the Cotton Bowl is a big bowl. Not a BCS but it is a big time bowl and if they choose to use bowls in a play off they will probably add the Cotton Bowl to the mix.

 

[volinbham]

If he was bothered or distracted by the lawsuits and media, he should have stepped up and distanced himself from the team or separated himself in the aspect that this distraction was hurting his team. He has a staff that could take over (well minus the OC side of things). Staying on point while being distracted costs games, injuries, etc.

This presumes the team would function better with no head coach as opposed to a distracted one.

 

[JasonCajun]

1st, I thought ATM was not a big time school? Second ATM was not the only school after him. And the Cotton Bowl is a big bowl. Not a BCS but it is a big time bowl and if they choose to use bowls in a play off they will probably add the Cotton Bowl to the mix.

A&M is not a big time school. They are a big school with lots of potential. Until they do something with that potential, then they aren't big time. Winning the Big 12 back in 98 was 7 years ago.

The Cotton Bowl was at one time a big bowl almost on par with the Sugar, Rose, and Orange Bowls. However the BCS has really delegated it to second tier bowl status at best. Look at it this way, who gets the first dibs on SEC teams? Sugar, Citrus (forget what it is called now), Peach, then Cotton?

 

[VolBeef88]

This presumes the team would function better with no head coach as opposed to a distracted one.

That is because HC's are not needed. LOL