Ole Miss Postgame Report

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At ZJC's request, I'm making an emergency start out of the bullpen tonight for him...

Wow. Where to start? I guess I'll start by saying we are not a tournament team. I wasn't really convinced of this until tonight. We just aren't tough. Surprising with a coach whose reputation is one of toughness. We lack killer instinct. This was one of those games that we were never really out of, but we were never really in it after 5 minutes in. We regressed again in this game, and after the positive step we saw coming out of the 2nd half vs Memphis, I think we conclude that this is a team that will often take two steps forward, and three steps back. Obviously, not having Maymon makes a difference, but we just played with no inspiration and let Ole Miss push us around and do whatever they wanted.

Good news (this will be a short list):
-McRae played well again and with purpose.
-Stokes missed a lot of easy shots, but rebounded well and scored a fair amount too. He was aggressive offensively.
-Yemi continues to be solid.

Bad news:
-Kenny Hall...pathetic effort and attitude. I held out hope after your Memphis effort. You let me down again. Shame on me for believing you were something other than what you are; a lazy player who takes for granted the opportunity in front of you.
-Skylar McBee is just ineffective across the board if he isn't hitting from outside. His defense tonight was pitiful.
-Trae Golden played well in the first half and looked to be more assertive. In the second, he looked pretty bad all around again. Lopez didn't do much in relief.
-Derek Reese didn't really provide any spark. His defense was terrible tonight and his lack of strength was glaring in the paint vs the stronger OM players.
-Our team defense is nowhere as good as we thought. The stat shown at the beginning of the game was played out tonight. We are 13th in the conference in defensive efficiency.
-We tried a zone, which failed miserably on the whole because of the quickness of OM's guards.
-We were destroyed on the boards.

Ole Miss played really well. They were the tougher team. They played like they wanted to win. Marshall Henderson and Murphy Holloway are really good players and we had no one that could stay with them. Henderson is exactly what Tennessee is missing.
 
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This team has lost confidence in itself, and I am quickly losing confidence in them, too. I hope CCM is able to find a way to bring everything together because things aren't looking good at all right now.
 
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People wanted us to play uptempo...we tried and lost 2 in a row.

People wanted us to play zone...we tried and got destroyed.

What's next?
 
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cncchris33 said:
At ZJC's request, I'm making an emergency start out of the bullpen tonight for him...

Wow. Where to start? I guess I'll start by saying we are not a tournament team. I wasn't really convinced of this until tonight. We just aren't tough. Surprising with a coach whose reputation is one of toughness. We lack killer instinct. This was one of those games that we were never really out of, but we were never really in it after 5 minutes in. We regressed again in this game, and after the positive step we saw coming out of the 2nd half vs Memphis, I think we conclude that this is a team that will often take two steps forward, and three steps back. Obviously, not having Maymon makes a difference, but we just played with no inspiration and let Ole Miss push us around and do whatever they wanted.

Good news (this will be a short list):
-McRae played well again and with purpose.
-Stokes missed a lot of easy shots, but rebounded well and scored a fair amount too. He was aggressive offensively.
-Yemi continues to be solid.

Bad news:
-Kenny Hall...pathetic effort and attitude. I held out hope after your Memphis effort. You let me down again. Shame on me for believing you were something other than what you are; a lazy player who takes for granted the opportunity in front of you.
-Skylar McBee is just ineffective across the board if he isn't hitting from outside. His defense tonight was pitiful.
-Trae Golden played well in the first half and looked to be more assertive. In the second, he looked pretty bad all around again. Lopez didn't do much in relief.
-Derek Reese didn't really provide any spark. His defense was terrible tonight and his lack of strength was glaring in the paint vs the stronger OM players.
-Our team defense is nowhere as good as we thought. The stat shown at the beginning of the game was played out tonight. We are 13th in the conference in defensive efficiency.
-We tried a zone, which failed miserably on the whole because of the quickness of OM's guards.
-We were destroyed on the boards.

Ole Miss played really well. They were the tougher team. They played like they wanted to win. Marshall Henderson and Murphy Holloway are really good players and we had no one that could stay with them. Henderson is exactly what Tennessee is missing.
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Oh, they're a tournament team alright. A NIT one.

Kenny Hall's stat line - 0 points, 0 boards and 5 fouls. I really don't wish for players to leave because they chose to go to UT. However, this team will be a much better team once McBee and Hall leave. I'll just leave it at that.

UT got outclassed in almost every single category. It's almost like the team and coaching staff was satisfied with coming back against Memphis. The Memphis game was fool's gold. Memphis doesn't play a lot of defense. That's why UT came back. Ole Miss is a more physical team and just bullied UT. They had their way in the post and on the perimeter.

As I was afraid of, this team is going to go 0-3 to start the SEC season. They'll lose at Bama and they'll lose at Ky next Tue. A horrible, horrible way to start the SEC season.

Other than the COC, Oakland and Austin Peay games last year, this is easily one of the most pathetic efforts of the Martin regime. This team and coaching staff better get their heads out of their asses or they'll be lucky to have 10,000 people show up at the next home game.
 
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Im not sure pace played a factor in this game. Resorting to shooting 26 three's, getting only one chance on most possessions, and being beat to every single 50-50 ball played as much a roll. OM is just a tougher, more disciplined team. A better team IMO because they have much better guard play.

The uptempo pace in the Memphis game is what allowed us to have a shot.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
People wanted us to play uptempo...we tried and lost 2 in a row.

People wanted us to play zone...we tried and got destroyed.

What's next?
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Martin better go back to his bread and butter and limit Hall and McBee's minutes. No damn reason those two should play more than 10 min a game unless someone is in foul trouble. They're liabilities on the court.

Hall played like he was stoned yet again. I've never seen a more inconsistent UT player than him in a long time. Gets a double double against Memphis and then throws up a turd sammich tonight with 0 points, 0 boards and 5 fouls in 12 min. Unreal.
 
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Good report Chris.


And yeah BTO I was wondering the same thing during the game. This team is just handicapped right now with Maymon out and Golden playing so badly. Golden probably gave up 20 Pts tonight by himself
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
People wanted us to play uptempo...we tried and lost 2 in a row.

People wanted us to play zone...we tried and got destroyed.

What's next?
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Don't think we played up tempo.
Maybe a few minutes when McRae and Richardson were hitting jumpers and baselines.
Doesn't help to play up tempo anyway if all you do is jack 3 point bricks all night.
Why so many 3s?
 
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calban said:
Don't think we played up tempo.
Maybe a few minutes when McRae and Richardson were hitting jumpers and baselines.
Doesn't help to play up tempo anyway if all you do is jack 3 point bricks all night.
Why so many 3s?
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Agree.
 
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calban said:
Don't think we played up tempo.
Maybe a few minutes when McRae and Richardson were hitting jumpers and baselines.
Doesn't help to play up tempo anyway if all you do is jack 3 point bricks all night.
Why so many 3s?
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Because we still don't know how to figure out a zone.

Our defense and rebounding let this team down tonight though. We outrebounded Memphis. We got outhustled and outrebounded tonight.

Ole Miss shot 44 free throws and outrebounded UT 47-32. UT is lucky they didn't get beat by more than 18.
 
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OrangeBalls said:
Because we still don't know how to figure out a zone.

Our defense and rebounding let this team down tonight though. We outrebounded Memphis. We got outhustled and outrebounded tonight.

Ole Miss shot 44 free throws and outrebounded UT 47-32. UT is lucky they didn't get beat by more than 18.
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We showed we knew how on a handful of possessions.
Beat them down the floor and made shots before they set up.
Then just started walking again.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Ole Miss played really well. They were the tougher team. They played like they wanted to win. Marshall Henderson and Murphy Holloway are really good players and we had no one that could stay with them. Henderson is exactly what Tennessee is missing.
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Agree on Holloway. But Henderson will cost Ole Miss some games. I've not seen a ball hog like him since James Robinson (if I remember his name right) from Bama in the early 90s. He's got energy but took a ton of bad shots. Announcers got it right...arenas are going to love to hate him. Some bench player or scrub on a team is going to deck him during one of his antics.

This was a painful game to watch.
It seems when Tenn finds something working they quickly abandon it for some reason
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I think the issue with the uptempo/ slow it down is he doesn't have a roster built for one or the other, and sure CCM is partially to blame.

Golden and Mcbee are much better in a slow it down, tough grind it our game. Well that's 2 of your starters, and your PG.

However, your 6th man and starting 3 are much better it seems running and pushing the tempo.

It almost seems like he doesn't have a good 5 who he can put out there and run with, or a good 5 he can put out there and grind with.

Jmo
 
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Very good analysis. Can anyone explain what was up with Hall?

Wonder if CCM should start Lopez and start bringing Golden off the bench for extended minutes? Golden seems to disappear for stretches. And McBee should not be getting more than 5-7 minutes per game. Turr-a-ble.
 
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