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[Shaun1985]

Tony Jones said ccm sticking with Tatum even though he was sucking goes a long way with other players. Basically, it's showing that your coach believes in you even though your sucking and in return he says guys would run through a brick wall for you because you beleive in them (in so many words)

do you agree? If we had other options do you think Martin does that? I don't see a 5th yr guy magically turning it around so late in his career but he's obviously got the skills to go off on any given night
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[BruinVol]

Tony Jones said ccm sticking with Tatum even though he was sucking goes a long way with other players. Basically, it's showing that your coach believes in you even though your sucking and in return he says guys would run through a brick wall for you because you beleive in them (in so many words)

do you agree? If we had other options do you think Martin does that? I don't see a 5th yr guy magically turning it around so late in his career but he's obviously got the skills to go off on any given night
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I think that sticking with a player by letting them play thru their problems is usually a good thing for team moral. However it all depends on what the team thinks about the player(Tatum). If he is respected for his effort then I agree with what TJ had to say. If not its just the opposite.
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[bleedingTNorange]

Tony Jones said ccm sticking with Tatum even though he was sucking goes a long way with other players. Basically, it's showing that your coach believes in you even though your sucking and in return he says guys would run through a brick wall for you because you beleive in them (in so many words)

do you agree? If we had other options do you think Martin does that? I don't see a 5th yr guy magically turning it around so late in his career but he's obviously got the skills to go off on any given night
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i think it really just depends on the player and situation. if tatum is a guy that isnt very popular on the team, isnt putting in the effort in practice, and isnt trying to get in the gym more then you pull him. from all things i have seen though tatum is pretty well liked, he busts his butt in practice, and has been getting in the gym trying to get better. another factor is who do you have behind and around him, there really isnt anyone that you have pushing him. you have jordan mcrae coming on lately but id chose to start him over richardson at this point. another thing that is in tatums favor is that CCM feels he is our best perimeter defender so with a coach preaching defense that goes a long ways.

heres the thing just like we saw with last game, start tatum and see how it goes and gauge the minutes from there. if he is playing bad, and someone else has a hot hand cut back his minutes a bit, if he is playing good keep him out there. this still gives off the perception that he is starting and that you are sticking with the guy, but at the same time you're also exploring other options and riding the hot hand.

 

[Shaun1985]

i agree 100%. Something else they discussed was woolridge going off on kentucky and doesnt see the floor much against georgia. They said it was all about matchups and swiper can not guard the 3.
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[keckjm]

I do agree with all of this, but don't think for one moment once we get "QUALITY" depth that this won't change. As bad as Tatum has been, McBee/McRae(untill last 3 games) haven't been any better all season. There's no one to replace Tatum with, and to be honest our best line up starting games is Tatum, Josh, McBee, Maymon, and Stokes. Allowing Golden and McRae to get a feel for the game really helps them IMO. Facts are, we have no true depth. Tatum is our starter because off the bench he doesn't give us a true scoring option like McRae ad Golden do. Tatum is just a body who has the ability to play well, but most the time just gives ya mins with no +/-return.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

i agree 100%. Something else they discussed was woolridge going off on kentucky and doesnt see the floor much against georgia. They said it was all about matchups and swiper can not guard the 3.
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swiper is just in a bad spot. he isnt going to play over stokes, maymon and hall, so that leaves one plausible spot and that is the 3. he really just isnt quick enough to guard the 3, unless the opposition 3 is a really big guy like woolridge. it's just really an unfortunate situation that he is in.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Tony Jones said ccm sticking with Tatum even though he was sucking goes a long way with other players. Basically, it's showing that your coach believes in you even though your sucking and in return he says guys would run through a brick wall for you because you beleive in them (in so many words)

do you agree? If we had other options do you think Martin does that? I don't see a 5th yr guy magically turning it around so late in his career but he's obviously got the skills to go off on any given night
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I agree in this case for a couple of reasons. He is a senior and one of the team's leaders. Also, he has some ability and has shown it on occasions. He plays decent defense. Then there is also the fact that other players who would replace him are not exactly lighting it up either.

 

[BIGcrowd]

I trust CCM and believe in him. However, I believe that Tatum should EARN his starting spot back throuh good play. Woolridge is a Sr aswell and he usually plays about 3 mins a game, So the SR leadership angle isn't working with me. And there is such a thing as bad Leadership. So I would like to see the starting 5 of:

Hall
Stokes
Maymon
Golden
Richardson

with the other mins going to Woolridge / Yemi down low and McBee, Tatum and McRae on the ball

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I trust CCM and believe in him. However, I believe that Tatum should EARN his starting spot back throuh good play. Woolridge is a Sr aswell and he usually plays about 3 mins a game, So the SR leadership angle isn't working with me. And there is such a thing as bad Leadership. So I would like to see the starting 5 of:

Hall
Stokes
Maymon
Golden
Richardson

with the other mins going to Woolridge / Yemi down low and McBee, Tatum and McRae on the ball

Maymon is not capable of playing extended minutes at the 3 at this point. Also, by playing him at the 3 you are taking away our only advantage we have right now, and that's maymon in te post. Moving him to the. Moves him further from the basket, less post up moves, less foul calls, and less rebounds hell get ahold of.

I can agree with you on tatum should have to earn his minutes and that this team may benefit from a change. However, I don't think playing maymon at the 3 is that change, I would start McRae over tatum. McRae has been playing very well lately and has clearly been working hard in practice, and getting in the gym more as well. To me McRae deserve a chance to start and prove himself, and tatum has earned the position of having I prove himself

I like the idea of benching cam and maybe it'll light a fire under him I just don't agree with maymon going to the 3. As I said it doesn't benefit us in anyway. He is our advantage right now and that advantage is inside post scoring and rebounding, both of which he is a main contributor. He can't shoot outside of about 8 feet do he scares nobody outside, his defender would just sag completely off and make it that much harder on stokes down low. Plus when he goes to defend the opposing 3 that's going to be very hard do him to do everytime down. Hell have to play tight o prevent a good look, but also be quick enough to stay in front of the opposing 3, i just dont see it. To me your taking away the strongest part of maymons game, and maybe even the strongest part of our game by doing that.