oregon paid lyles for list of recruits that already graduated high school

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the chipster is going to go down as one of the dirtiest coaches in pac-10 history.

Yes, Oregon paid $25,000 for an obsolete recruiting list (unless that?s just what it wants you to think) - Dr. Saturday - NCAAFBlog - Yahoo! Sports

In short, Oregon paid $25,000 — significantly above the going market rate — for the names of recruits it could not recruit because they had already graduated from high school. As the Eugene Register-Guard's George Schroeder notes, the "2011 package" purchased from Willie Lyles appears to contain information on exactly zero 2011 recruits.

For a service with an allegedly national scope, Lyles' package is limited geographically, too: The Oregonian counts just five of 140 players in the report from outside the state of Texas (two from South Carolina, one each from California, Louisiana and Oklahoma), and a significant portion of the players are described as "Low Division I/Division IAA" or just "Division I AA," well below the standard of athlete who might plausibly wind up at a program like Oregon.
 
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So I'm guess this was an illicit payment for something else? Sorry I'm a little behind on Oregon recruiting practices/general cheatingness.
 
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Supposedly, everything was not released They also paid for access to online video...supposedly.

Honestly, I think thepayment was less for recruiting info and more for access, and the "information" was provided as a means of making it permissible per NCAA rules.

Either that or our coach is a giant dumbass that got conned by Lyles (less likely).

I have trouble thinking that if something impermissible was happening that the athletic department would leave such a big paper trail and released so much information to the public.

Who knows. It's definitely shady, to say the least.
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So dumb. How hard would it have been to make a bogus report about current recruits? If youre going to cheat at least have some sense about it.
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Anyone who thinks this stuff isn't going on everywhere is an idiot. Problem is I have to believe a portion of the "fees" are being passed to the family of the recruit, or the recruit themselves. However.....if you get caught, then be prepared to suffer the consequences. That is my opinion on it.
 
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MaehlMan said:
Honestly, I think thepayment was less for recruiting info and more for access, and the "information" was provided as a means of making it permissible per NCAA rules.

Either that or our coach is a giant dumbass that got conned by Lyles (less likely).
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If they were trying to cover up the fact Lyles got paid for Seastrunk or that they paid for "access" to make it "permissible per NCAA rules" the info would at least have eligible players in it.
 
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justingroves said:
If they were trying to cover up the fact Lyles got paid for Seastrunk or that they paid for "access" to make it "permissible per NCAA rules" the info would at least have eligible players in it.
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That's why this ia confusing to me. I mean, how hard could it be to make up a book full of legitimate prospects?
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The one thing I haven't seen yet, is what can actually be proven? Unless a text message or recorded phone call surfaces where it details how the money is actually being exchanged for the player, then can anything actually be done? I know it's the NCAA, and not a court, but in order to really punish the program there has to be some form of solid information proving the payment was to get Seastrunk, doesn't there?

EDIT: Or at least a pattern of this going on with Oregon?
 
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I don't see the big deal.

How can Oregon's coaching staff be expected to know who is already committed or enrolled elsewhere? It's not like that kind of information is available to just anyone for free.
 
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They're saying on the radio here the list Oregon paid for is two years old. That sounds pretty stupid if you ask me.
 
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bamawriter said:
I don't see the big deal.

How can Oregon's coaching staff be expected to know who is already committed or enrolled elsewhere? It's not like that kind of information is available to just anyone for free.
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That Alabama education at work
 
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MTSUDaff said:
The one thing I haven't seen yet, is what can actually be proven? Unless a text message or recorded phone call surfaces where it details how the money is actually being exchanged for the player, then can anything actually be done?
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Paying $25,000 to Seastrunk's mother's boyfriend for a list of recruits that is obsolete isn't shady at all.
 
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MaehlMan said:
That's why this ia confusing to me. I mean, how hard could it be to make up a book full of legitimate prospects?
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I know right?

It must take a pretty stupid head coach to pay him off with a school check.
 
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If you're going to insult me about never having been to a stadium, you could at least spell its name right...
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