OU, Texas Boards of Regents to meet on Monday

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to discuss the futures of each school regarding conference realignments, Big 12 conference future, memberships to the Big 12 conference, etc


Think I heard also OU is supposedly expected to announce a decision in the next 10 to 14 days (unsure though)
 
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So when all the dust settles, what do we think we'll be looking at? The Kinda-Small VII? or what?
 
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VolNExile said:
So when all the dust settles, what do we think we'll be looking at? The Kinda-Small VII? or what?
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Personally, i think possibly two options:

Either the teams all scatter between the Pac 12, SEC, Big 10, Big East, and Mountain West

Or you see some sort of shell of a conference left where the Big 12 has absorbed teams from the mountain west, conference USA, Independent, and maybe even some WAC/MAC/Sunbelt (though really more the MW & CUSA & Indep). The conference still exists under the same name with some older schools like KU & KSU, but it's nowhere near what it used to be as a whole


I think either could be ways this ultimately ends up going when all the moving and invites are over
 
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I think the BigXII survives as long as it has a BCS guarantee. If Texas, TTU, OU and OSU leave I could see Baylor, KU, KSU, ISU, Missouri adding a few schools such as Houston, TCU, SMU, Colorado St, etc to keep the conference alive. I think on the face of it, schools like Iowa St will be much less embarassed to keep playing in a decimated BigXII rather than find themselves turned down by the Mountain West and having to settle for the sunbelt or ConUSA.
 
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mchandl7 said:
I think the BigXII survives as long as it has a BCS guarantee. If Texas, TTU, OU and OSU leave I could see Baylor, KU, KSU, ISU, Missouri adding a few schools such as Houston, TCU, SMU, Colorado St, etc to keep the conference alive. I think on the face of it, schools like Iowa St will be much less embarassed to keep playing in a decimated BigXII rather than find themselves turned down by the Mountain West and having to settle for the sunbelt or ConUSA.
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Missouri will leave because it will have suitors, but yes if those 4 can keep the conference together through invites it'd likely end as such

maybe plus BYU as well
 
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The conference looked a lot weaker when Nebraska and Colorado left. Texas A&M joins the SEC, and Texas and OU (and OSU) go to the PAC, are the remaining 7 (or 6) teams stronger than the best 7 that CUSA or the MWC has to offer? I don't see how they could possibly keep BCS AQ status if Texas and OU leave. If those schools leave, the conference is done. Mizzou will go SEC or B1G, and the remaining schools will end up in CUSA, MWC, and WAC.
 
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FWIW the rumor on the A&M board is that OU wants the SEC without OSU. Some believe it, some don't. I personally don't see it, but anything could be possible when all this breaks loose!
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I did say that was one of two possibilities...


I'm not sure on the Big12's BCS AQ status though, i know it's all under review in another year or two but I'm not sure they can revoke it fully until 2016 or so, unless the conference just chooses to erase itself. I have to wonder if that aspect alone might be enough to draw in at least enough MW/CUSA/Indep to at least have a working conference for - at the very least - a few years



I'm curious though, a mere hypothetical, were they to pick up BYU, for the argument's sake TCU (from fears of the Big East falling apart) and - let's say, again just for argument's sake, Boise St. Those, the four remaining big 12 schools, plus a CSU, Houston, SMU, UNLV, southern miss, fresno, whoever, wouldnt be enough to at least hold the conference together?
 
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The Big 12 is dead. People can spin it however they want to, but the Big 12 is a lame duck conference at this point. It's over.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
FWIW the rumor on the A&M board is that OU wants the SEC without OSU. Some believe it, some don't. I personally don't see it, but anything could be possible when all this breaks loose!
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No, it's a rumor and i think i might know where it's coming from. There's an article from an Oklahoma news site saying OU should play "The SEC card" as a bluff to get Texas's attention and make sure that any future agreements on the Big 12/conference moving are done just as much on OU's terms as Texas's
 
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Dont see any other result than ou and okie lite defecting to the pac12. The only thing left in question is whether tu gives up their own network to join a conference or keeps it and goes indy... Or raids houston, rice and smu to be king of their own bad conference.
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would they raid BYU too in that case?

(or TCU if it became overly clear the BE would be no more)
 
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Maybe. It's pretty clear everybody else is fighting to be top dog while the bxii is just fighting to survive.

If it does, it will be texas because they want the world for themselves and what amounts to cusa west/swc redux because they want to play with the big boys.
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Velo Vol said:
I assumed the two schools are politically linked, like UVA and VT.

Is that not correct?
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As I've said, UVa and Tech aren't as politically linked as everyone says- if Tech wanted to move to the SEC, the state government would not interfere, especially with the ACC looking like it will easily survive.

UVa's got a home, so why would Tech leaving matter? They've been in different conferences for most of their history.
 
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Velo Vol said:
I assumed the two schools are politically linked, like UVA and VT.

Is that not correct?
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OU and OSU pretty much are

...but it's their situation that led to everyone saying/assuming UVA and VT were politically linked
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But either way OU pretty much doesnt want to go anywhere without OK st
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