Our Legal System is a Joke

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#2
Loughner will be sent to a federal facility for a maximum of four months to see if his competency can be restored. If he's later determined to be competent, the case against him will resume.


If he isn't deemed competent at the end of his treatment, his stay at the facility can be extended. There are no limits on the number of times such extensions can be granted.
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I fail to understand the OP's outrage.
 
#5
#5
The judge is making a very prudent call. He could push ahead with the trial and later the appellate courts would be asked to review the case and decide whether Loughner was mentally capable to stand trial. If they decided he was not, he would be free. Or, he could decide to basically keep Loughner locked up indefinitely in a mental health facility. There is no statute of limitations on prosecuting most homicides; therefore, there is no time constraint involved in the latter option.
 
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#6
I understand the decision based on the current rules. Its the rules I have a problem with.
 
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lumberjack4 said:
I understand the decision based on the current rules. Its the rules I have a problem with.
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Simply speaking to the rules, not this particular case, do you think it is right to punish someone who possesses neither the mental capacity nor the mental capability to distinguish between right and wrong?
 
#8
#8
My problem is in most cases you have to be mentally unstable (IMO) to commit murder.
 
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therealUT said:
Simply speaking to the rules, not this particular case, do you think it is right to punish someone who possesses neither the mental capacity nor the mental capability to distinguish between right and wrong?
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Yes, we do it all the time.
 
#13
#13
So i guess we'll just put him in a facility, study him, try to figure out why he's a psychopath. Waste of tax dollars, take him out back shoot him in the head. Same deal with pedifiles, they don't need studying either, they need lead.
 
#14
#14
Agree with the OP to a point. I understand the reasoning, I just don't agree with it. This guy should rot in prison.
 
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therealUT said:
Simply speaking to the rules, not this particular case, do you think it is right to punish someone who possesses neither the mental capacity nor the mental capability to distinguish between right and wrong?
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I think that it is of the upmost importance to remove them from an environment within which they can inflict wrong upon others, seeing as they have no means of understanding if they are doing wrong or not.
 
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#16
Isn't having mercy on the mentally incompetent one of the things that sort of sets us apart as a civilized society?
 
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GAVol said:
Isn't having mercy on the mentally incompetent one of the things that sort of sets us apart as a civilized society?
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If I were to list the things that define a civilized society, it wouldn't necessarily have been in my top few, but it does seem like that is something that does indicate a certain degree of civility.
 
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#21
So, he gets 3 square meals a day, and all the medicine he can stand, just to make him competent for his trial?? Dr. Phil could knock this out in an episode, "You are just one crazy mother".
 
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GAVol said:
Isn't having mercy on the mentally incompetent one of the things that sort of sets us apart as a civilized society?
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Carter apparently doesn't think so.

He'd rather to continue to shoot nutjobs in the head rather than figure out why they do what they do so they can be stopped in the first place.
 
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milohimself said:
Carter apparently doesn't think so.

He'd rather to continue to shoot nutjobs in the head rather than figure out why they do what they do so they can be stopped in the first place.
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How can you stop random acts of violence?? Drug the hell out of three psychics, put them in a bowl of water, and have them shoot out crimes before they happen?? Some people are just crazy, and no matter how much you study them or medicate them, they're just going to be crazy. It makes no sense to spend years studying someone of that mindset.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
How can you stop random acts of violence?? Drug the hell out of three psychics, put them in a bowl of water, and have them shoot out crimes before they happen?? Some people are just crazy, and no matter how much you study them or medicate them, they're just going to be crazy. It makes no sense to spend years studying someone of that mindset.
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Yeah, it's not like they have hundreds of years of scientific research with incredible leaps and bounds in research of finding out why crazy people are crazy.

They should all get shot instead.
 
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milohimself said:
Yeah, it's not like they have hundreds of years of scientific research with incredible leaps and bounds in research of finding out why crazy people are crazy.

They should all get shot instead.
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What can they really do?? All they do is medicate them, and why should I have to pay for that medication?? We house some of the most serial offenders in the world, and yet people sit here and talk about how we aren't cruel to the most cruel on the streets. It's kind of like trying to win over the radical Muslims with talks of peace and coexisting, and they don't want that.
 
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