Overtime Elite = Monumental Shift in college basketball?

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OTE pro league to pay high school-aged players

Interesting, should stop the one and done guys

Short-form video content company Overtime announced Thursday that it is launching a professional basketball league that will compensate high school-aged players in hopes of funneling elite talent away from playing both high school and collegiate basketball, in which players are prohibited from being compensated.

Overtime will launch the league, Overtime Elite (OTE) in September, targeting top-ranked players ages 16 to 18 who are willing to forfeit their remaining high school eligibility and future college eligibility to earn six figures.
 
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Kids that have true NBA or NFL potential do not go to high school or college to play school.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Kids with true NBA or NFL potential who don’t at least graduate HS are setting themselves up for long term failure. For every Kobe Bryant, there’s dozens of Korleone Youngs.
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Yet we celebrate athletic prowess while ignoring academic accomplishments.
 
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volfanbill said:
What happens to a 16 year HS sophomore that does this his junior year when the league has folded due to lack of funding?
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Who cares?

I like the idea of giving kids who have no interest in school an option to play and possibly make it to the league.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Not all of us...the path to athletic “glory” is littered with thousands of kids with million dollar athletic ability and ten cent attitude and/or academic work ethic.
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No doubt about that.

I also have no doubt that you could name last year's QBs for the belly dragging lizards.
I do however have reservations about your ability to name the Valedictorian for Florida's last graduating class.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Kids with true NBA or NFL potential who don’t at least graduate HS are setting themselves up for long term failure. For every Kobe Bryant, there’s dozens of Korleone Youngs.
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i think you are being generous with your "dozens"
 
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tnutater said:
No doubt about that.

I also have no doubt that you could name last year's QBs for the belly dragging lizards.
I do however have reservations about your ability to name the Valedictorian for Florida's last graduating class.
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I know what you are saying but this is a bad argument. He chooses to pay attention to Gator football. he could name their QB because he paid attention. If you asked some rando off the street they aren't going to know unless they pay attention to the subject matter.
 
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hog88 said:
Who cares?

I like the idea of giving kids who have no interest in school an option to play and possibly make it to the league.
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what do you give the odds this lasts any amount of time?

Its one of those things, if they succeed great. If they don't a lot of kids are going to be hurt by it while the OTE people will still make more than the kids and not be hurt by failure.
 
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tnutater said:
No doubt about that.

I also have no doubt that you could name last year's QBs for the belly dragging lizards.
I do however have reservations about your ability to name the Valedictorian for Florida's last graduating class.
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Guilty as charged.

What do I win for not keeping track of my alma mater’s valedictorian each semester?
 
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LouderVol said:
what do you give the odds this lasts any amount of time?

Its one of those things, if they succeed great. If they don't a lot of kids are going to be hurt by it while the OTE people will still make more than the kids and not be hurt by failure.
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I give it less than a 50-50 chance of succeeding. I really hope it does well and takes the one and dones out of college ball and does so well the NFL develops it's own system for kids to bypass college.

It's past time for the NBA and NFL to have feeder systems outside of college sports.
 
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I wonder if there is any money in it. I wonder when they’ll play. I figure 95% of the money is in advertising, and I also figure any dollar you get has to come from somebody else’s program losing it.
 
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volfanbill said:
What happens to a 16 year HS sophomore that does this his junior year when the league has folded due to lack of funding?
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What happens when no system is in place to manage their money and educate a 16 year old making 6 figures that he owes income tax federally and state tax in any state they play a game.
 
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At the risk of triggering our resident dookie, I’m not sure why a McDs All American takes this big of a pay cut to go to a pro league over the pay and perks at the University of New Jersey at Durham or Kentucky.
 
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GVF said:
What happens when no system is in place to manage their money and educate a 16 year old making 6 figures that he owes income tax federally and state tax in any state they play a game.
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I think it's proven schools do not teach personal financial responsibility.
 
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GVF said:
What happens when no system is in place to manage their money and educate a 16 year old making 6 figures that he owes income tax federally and state tax in any state they play a game.
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Dook likely has a good system in place for that. Just copy it. Why reinvent the wheel??
 
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With the average being 2.5 and 4.5 years respectively this is a great idea for what not to do.
 
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hog88 said:
I give it less than a 50-50 chance of succeeding. I really hope it does well and takes the one and dones out of college ball and does so well the NFL develops it's own system for kids to bypass college.

It's past time for the NBA and NFL to have feeder systems outside of college sports.
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To cut down on one and done players, the NBA needs to lower the age limit to be eligible for the draft back to 18 or whatever it was before. And even then, the option to bypass college exists by playing over seas professionally and then entering the draft.

I think this is a good option for kids who don’t want to move thousands of miles away from their families or support system to pursue their dream of playing basketball professionally out of HS. The arguments against it - teens can’t handle the freedom, not financially savvy enough - aren’t really cutting it when they don’t learn those things in their one year of college anyway. It would also cut down on college programs paying players or coaches to come to their school when this option exists. I love college basketball but I’m not dumb enough to think all these guys will “see the light” when they get to college and end up staying for a few years. Most of the highly rated guys have likely already made up their minds to go pro before they step foot on a college campus and they’re just going through the motions of being a college student. That’s certainly not the case for all kids who play at big programs, but if they’ve been told they were a sure fire pro prospect since they were 14 or 15 years old, then I think this is a good option for them.

As for the NFL, if there were a financially lucrative way for them to do it, they would have done it already. I think kids just aren’t physically ready to play pro football at 17 or 18 and it’s too much of a liability health wise.

While I would personally like to see an age requirement of 18 or HS diploma, all in all I think it’s a win win for the kids, the NBA and college basketball.
 
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