Paterno AP coach of the year

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(milohimself @ Dec 21 said:
IMO it should have been George O'Leary.
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He still got to get over making an a$$ out of himself with the ND resume.
 
#5
#5
O'Leary and Rich Rodriguez were both very good candidates to many people.

Rodriguez turned a rebuilding West Virginia team into a legit BCS contender.

Mack Brown should have been a high consideration, given that he finally got his team over the hump of being able to play with top-flight opponnents, both last year against Michigan in the Rose Bowl and this year's early season matchup against Ohio State

Pete Carroll should be another strong candidate.

I heard this stat on ESPN about Pete Carroll: If not for USC's 3OT loss to Cal in the 2003 season, USC would be playing in the Rose Bowl to try and tie the longest winning streak in the history of college football at 47 straight wins, encompassing 4 straight BCS Bowl victories, 4 Pac-10 Conference titles (1 shared, 3 outright) and 3 AP National titles. I would have to say, given that USC did win at least a share of the national title in 2003 despite the 3OT loss to Cal, if USC is to win the Rose Bowl, IMO it will become the greatest streak in the history of the sport.

Just some food for thought.
 
#6
#6
Given the situation O'Leary should have won it hands down.

He would have if Joe Pa would have had an unsuccessful season.
 
#7
#7
There were a lot of good candidate this year. I think if Spurrier had beaten Clemson, he would have been in the mix too.
 
#8
#8
O'Leary did great job but I will not take anything away from JoePa winning it. He took a crappy team last year and was one second away from beating Michigan which would have changed the season. Still a highly successful season based on what happend last year to this year which when you look at it O'Leary did same thing but JoePA did it against some highly ranked quality teams. BigTen tougher then the USA Conf.

Think Fulmer can be in same boat has JoePa next year if he turns it around.
 
#9
#9
Joe Pa has had it rough over the past few years, Fulmer has been to consistent.

Besides Fulmer should win 9-10 games a year, or last that is what most of us think!
 
#10
#10
(OrangeEmpire @ Dec 21 said:
Joe Pa has had it rough over the past few years, Fulmer has been to consistent.

Besides Fulmer should win 9-10 games a year, or last that is what most of us think!
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I totally agree. If he does this it will be a huge turn which should at least put him on the short list for coach of year award if that happens.
 
#12
#12
I think had Les Miles won the SECCG, he'd gotten it...katrina and all, winning all those games in a row, no off week and still win the SEC? he'd of been hard to turn down...but Joe Pa, i got no problem with that...huge year from a team that was not expected to do diddly...and he had to change some of his ways to get it done....

and Freak, i like the direction your post went...if PSU wins the Orange Bowl...Big 10 champs, coach of the year, top 3 ranking....that's something you could walk away from proudly...truth be known, so could Bowden should he win that game...

 
#13
#13
(hohenfelsvol @ Dec 21 said:
O'Leary did great job but I will not take anything away from JoePa winning it. He took a crappy team last year and was one second away from beating Michigan which would have changed the season. Still a highly successful season based on what happend last year to this year which when you look at it O'Leary did same thing but JoePA did it against some highly ranked quality teams. BigTen tougher then the USA Conf.
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The level of competition doesn't matter. It's taking a crappy team and going to the conference championship. IMO getting UCF to the C-USA championship would be every bit as difficult as getting, say, Ole Miss to the SEC Championship or Kansas to the Big XII Championship. Winless to division champs is flat-out good coaching. Also consider that UCF has had only one good season since it joined NCAA D-IA in 1996.
 
#14
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(milohimself @ Dec 21 said:
O'Leary and Rich Rodriguez were both very good candidates to many people.

Rodriguez turned a rebuilding West Virginia team into a legit BCS contender.

Mack Brown should have been a high consideration, given that he finally got his team over the hump of being able to play with top-flight opponnents, both last year against Michigan in the Rose Bowl and this year's early season matchup against Ohio State

Pete Carroll should be another strong candidate.

I heard this stat on ESPN about Pete Carroll: If not for USC's 3OT loss to Cal in the 2003 season, USC would be playing in the Rose Bowl to try and tie the longest winning streak in the history of college football at 47 straight wins, encompassing 4 straight BCS Bowl victories, 4 Pac-10 Conference titles (1 shared, 3 outright) and 3 AP National titles. I would have to say, given that USC did win at least a share of the national title in 2003 despite the 3OT loss to Cal, if USC is to win the Rose Bowl, IMO it will become the greatest streak in the history of the sport.

Just some food for thought.
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Rodriguez won the 'new' Big East with a rebuilding team, Paterno rebuilt a team and won the Big 10. Paterno's Nittany Lions were one play and 10 seconds away from playing for the national championship.

O'Leary shouldn't even be in the sport. Nothing like hiring a coach with a complete lack of integrity, I don't care if he is Lombardi incarnate.

It should have been and it was between Paterno, Weiss, and Carroll. Any of those three would have been very deserving.
 
#15
#15

O'Leary shouldn't even be in the sport. Nothing like hiring a coach with a complete lack of integrity, I don't care if he is Lombardi incarnate.
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Just for mere curiousity and nothing else, what do you think of Bobby Bowden?
 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Dec 22 said:
Just for mere curiousity and nothing else, what do you think of Bobby Bowden?
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I think there is a huge difference between going to bat for you players, and in fact sticking your neck on the line in hopes that you can turn the kid around, and lying on your resume your whole career. Mike Price falls in the same boat as O'Leary in the "Your actions really don't have consequences," generation that has fully emerged today.
 
#17
#17
I think there is a huge difference between going to bat for you players, and in fact sticking your neck on the line in hopes that you can turn the kid around, and lying on your resume your whole career.
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Come on now, Bobby is the closest thing to Faust! :biggrin2:
 
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