Patrick Beverley Rats Out Arkansas.

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hatvol96

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In an interview with draftexpress.net, he states that papers were written for he and other Hog players during his time in Fayettenam. Here's hoping this costs John Pelphrey his job.
 
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Sounds like a cheating pandemic is upon us in college basketball.
 
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If you're happy that the guy may get fired based on a personal distain, fine, but that stuff goes on everywhere in every university environment, from athletics to academic organizations.
 
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hatvol96 said:
In an interview with draftexpress.net, he states that papers were written for he and other Hog players during his time in Fayettenam. Here's hoping this costs John Pelphrey his job.
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Please explain how you feel this should cost Pelphrey his job, but you feel that Calipari should have no form of punishment whatsoever in the current Memphis/Rose scandal? What if Pelphrey played the "dumb" card as Cal did and states he had no idead that kind of thing was going on?

Your statement is hypocritical, regardless of your severe disdain for one and your obsession with the other.
 
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PandamoniumReigns said:
Please explain how you feel this should cost Pelphrey his job, but you feel that Calipari should have no form of punishment whatsoever in the current Memphis/Rose scandal? What if Pelphrey played the "dumb" card as Cal did and states he had no idead that kind of thing was going on?

Your statement is hypocritical, regardless of your severe disdain for one and your obsession with the other.
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I am no Cal defender and don't care one way or the other for Pelphrey, but one happened during a player's time at a university and the other happened before the player ever got to the university. One is under the coach's watch and the other isn't.
 
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Gcrop said:
I am no Cal defender and don't care one way or the other for Pelphrey, but one happened during a player's time at a university and the other happened before the player ever got to the university. One is under the coach's watch and the other isn't.
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But in Rose's case, he was being actively pursued by Cal and WWW. So it isn't like Cal was completely oblivious to the fact that Rose could barely spell his own name.
If a player is willing to cheat to pass the SAT to get into a university, it is not completely out of the realm of normal human logic to concede that he would be inclined to cheat while AT the university. Cal has already shown he is willing to sweep things under the rug as long as it benefits him.

As far as Pelphrey goes, he is an idiot.
 
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PandamoniumReigns said:
But in Rose's case, he was being actively pursued by Cal and WWW. So it isn't like Cal was completely oblivious to the fact that Rose could barely spell his own name.
If a player is willing to cheat to pass the SAT to get into a university, it is not completely out of the realm of normal human logic to concede that he would be inclined to cheat while AT the university. Cal has already shown he is willing to sweep things under the rug as long as it benefits him.

As far as Pelphrey goes, he is an idiot.
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Don't ask, don't tell. You can't not recruit a kid because he seems to be as dumb as a box of rocks (not saying Derrick is, I have no idea).
 
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I knew several idiots in college. It never once crossed my mind to ask them if they cheated on the SAT. I just figured they kept making the test easier.
 
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Gcrop said:
Don't ask, don't tell. You can't not recruit a kid because he seems to be as dumb as a box of rocks (not saying Derrick is, I have no idea).
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You are right. You can't just ignore a kid because he is dumb. However, to get him into the university, you may have to pull a few strings. At some point, his academia will become a relevant issue to the coach who has recruited him. I find it ridiculously hard to believe Cal had no knowledge of the fraud involving the player her recruited.
 
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PandamoniumReigns said:
You are right. You can't just ignore a kid because he is dumb. However, to get him into the university, you may have to pull a few strings. At some point, his academia will become a relevant issue to the coach who has recruited him. I find it ridiculously hard to believe Cal had no knowledge of the fraud involving the player her recruited.
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It really doesn't matter if Cal knew it or not (as long as it can't be proved) because if the NCAA clearinghouse says, "Yea, this kid can play", you play him. If they say, "No, this kid can't play, his grades are suspect", (Angel Garcia for Memphis this past year) then they don't play him.
 
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Gcrop said:
It really doesn't matter if Cal knew it or not (as long as it can't be proved) because if the NCAA clearinghouse says, "Yea, this kid can play", you play him. If they say, "No, this kid can't play, his grades are suspect", (Angel Garcia for Memphis this past year) then they don't play him.
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I see your point. However, I would gladly place money on the fact that Cal knew, which calls into play his morals and ethics, which in turn, lead everyone to assume (and rightfully so) that he is a weasel of a coach.

Cal's hands are not clean in this issue. His hands will most likely never be clean as a basketball coach, especially while at Kentucky. Its only a matter of time before he gets busted at KY and he bolts for another program. He seems to be good at that.

With that said, again, Pelphrey is an idiot.
 
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Gcrop said:
It really doesn't matter if Cal knew it or not (as long as it can't be proved) because if the NCAA clearinghouse says, "Yea, this kid can play", you play him. If they say, "No, this kid can't play, his grades are suspect", (Angel Garcia for Memphis this past year) then they don't play him.
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I suppose you're on the bandwagon of lauding coaches who are able to break rules and stay one step ahead of the NCAA, as was eloquently discussed in a recent Half Court Trap.
 
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ukvols said:
I suppose you're on the bandwagon of lauding coaches who are able to break rules and stay one step ahead of the NCAA, as was eloquently discussed in a recent Half Court Trap.
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Not necessarily. I was just stating that you would have ahard time proving that a coach knew something. So it doesn't matter whether he knew anything about changing grades/test-taking issues or not (which he might have known about a "fishy" test score for Dozier).
 
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