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Does anyone else find it interesting that, of all people, joevol bitches about partisanship?
 
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emainvol said:
Does anyone else find it interesting that, of all people, joevol bitches about partisanship?
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a little but it doesn't change the fact that this (if true as presented) looks like a bad move by the Dems
 
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utvolpj said:
a little but it doesn't change the fact that this (if true as presented) looks like a bad move by the Dems
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Oh it's flat out retarded. Then again, HumanEvents isn't exactly where I go to get honest reporting on democrats either.
 
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emainvol said:
Does anyone else find it interesting that, of all people, joevol bitches about partisanship?
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it's not the partisanship, it's the lying, she specifically said it would be more of a bipartisan congress. of course anyone that knows anything about democrats, know that they are lying and this is just one of countless examples.
 
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emainvol said:
Oh it's flat out retarded. Then again, HumanEvents isn't exactly where I go to get honest reporting on democrats either.
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so you saying this is wrong? if she did it, she did it. it shouldn't matter on what magazine reported it. would you feel better if it was on one of the Hussein obama networks?
 
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joevol320 said:
it's not the partisanship, it's the lying, she specifically said it would be more of a bipartisan congress. of course anyone that knows anything about democrats, know that they are lying and this is just one of countless examples.
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So, in order to learn about democrats I should listen to you and other right wing nutjobs? Sounds perfectly reasonable.
 
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emainvol said:
So, in order to learn about democrats I should listen to you and other right wing nutjobs? Sounds perfectly reasonable.
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what is biased about that report? you make it out to seem like it was made up by a conservative who is trying to lie.
 
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joevol320 said:
what is biased about that report? you make it out to seem like it was made up by a conservative who is trying to lie.
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I wasn't talking about the report, I am sure there is truth contained within it. I was talking about the people like you that think that you know more about democrats than democrats. You are no different than the far left whackjobs that say that all Republicans are racists who hate poor people.
 
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emainvol said:
I wasn't talking about the report, I am sure there is truth contained within it. I was talking about the people like you that think that you know more about democrats than democrats. You are no different than the far left whackjobs that say that all Republicans are racists who hate poor people.
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because i said pelosi was lying (again) about wanting to be bipartisan. it's the truth, she said that and now she's gone 180 degrees. that is a lie. i'm not saying that i know more democrats, i just know that she lied.
 
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joevol320 said:
because i said pelosi was lying (again) about wanting to be bipartisan. it's the truth, she said that and now she's gone 180 degrees. that is a lie. i'm not saying that i know more democrats, i just know that she lied.
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Then stop grouping every democrat and liberal into a group with a harpy like Pelosi. I am liberal as all hell and I hate her, and there are plenty like me.
 
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emainvol said:
Then stop grouping every democrat and liberal into a group with a harpy like Pelosi. I am liberal as all hell and I hate her, and there are plenty like me.
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yeah, but you libs love her policies. as long as the lib agenda becomes law, it doesn't matter who is pushing it.
 
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emainvol said:
See, there you go again. This is futile because you are just plain ignorant.
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why is it futile. you're a lib, you obviously voted all democrat and all the democrats that run your party is liberal as heck. so why would you hate pelosi as long as she's pushing the liberal/democrat agenda? and if you do hate her, surely you can't hate the agenda that people like hussein obama, reid, kennedy, kerry, clinton support.
 
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emainvol said:
Then stop grouping every democrat and liberal into a group with a harpy like Pelosi. I am liberal as all hell and I hate her, and there are plenty like me.
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I can't stand her either and for that matter, can't stand Harry Reid.

Anyone throwing Obama into the same category with Pelosi and Reid either have been on a 2 month vacation on a small island in the Pacific or have their head so far up their azz they can lick their tonsils (see Joe Vols). In fact, the far left crowd aren't too happy with Obama, which is fine by me. So you have the far rights(joe vols) who can't stand him and the far lefts who can't stand him. Sounds like he has done a good job so far.
 
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joevol320 said:
why is it futile. you're a lib, you obviously voted all democrat and all the democrats that run your party is liberal as heck. so why would you hate pelosi as long as she's pushing the liberal/democrat agenda? and if you do hate her, surely you can't hate the agenda that people like hussein obama, reid, kennedy, kerry, clinton support.
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Because she is divisive and her ideas and policies are impractical. Just because I subscribe to a certain ideology doesn't mean that I think that radical shifts are the right thing for the country. Pelosi is a bitch and things like this prove it, this is retarded as I already stated. Reid is her lapdog, so I can't stand him for two reasons 1) going along with Pelosi and 2) his lack of testicles. Obama is my guy and has reached across the aisle infinitely more than Pelosi. I feel pretty much the same way about Kennedy and the Clintons (although I like Bill much more than Hillary). John Kerry sits in Al Gore territory for me, I wish he would just disappear.

So yes, it does matter who is pushing the liberal agenda, and no I don't have to agree with or like someone just because they share my ideals, but lack the tact or patience to find better ways to work towards them.
 
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joevol320 said:
why is it futile. you're a lib, you obviously voted all democrat and all the democrats that run your party is liberal as heck. so why would you hate pelosi as long as she's pushing the liberal/democrat agenda? and if you do hate her, surely you can't hate the agenda that people like hussein obama, reid, kennedy, kerry, clinton support.
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At this point, Obama and Pelosi are much further apart politically than Obama and John McCain. Emain is right. You tend to generalize much too easily and attach labels erroneously. You're really not prepared to debate intelligently on any of the issues. Did you know most of the military leaders from the past 10 years supported Obama? Of course you didn't, because you think most of them are hardcore conservative republicans like yourself when in fact, most of them are moderate republicans and
found GWB and company to be incompetent in planning for war
 
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emainvol said:
Because she is divisive and her ideas and policies are impractical. Just because I subscribe to a certain ideology doesn't mean that I think that radical shifts are the right thing for the country. Pelosi is a bitch and things like this prove it, this is retarded as I already stated. Reid is her lapdog, so I can't stand him for two reasons 1) going along with Pelosi and 2) his lack of testicles. Obama is my guy and has reached across the aisle infinitely more than Pelosi. I feel pretty much the same way about Kennedy and the Clintons (although I like Bill much more than Hillary). John Kerry sits in Al Gore territory for me, I wish he would just disappear.

So yes, it does matter who is pushing the liberal agenda, and no I don't have to agree with or like someone just because they share my ideals, but lack the tact or patience to find better ways to work towards them.
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well i don't see her having any tact to push her agenda, i'd say she'll try to cram it down our throat.
 
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emainvol said:
So why is it such a reach for someone like me to say "I don't like her?"
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maybe because there were many liberals on this board who accused those of us on the right of marching in lockstep with George W. Bush and the republicans. Painting with a broad brush is a trait that both sides have in common.
 
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MG1968 said:
maybe because there were many liberals on this board who accused those of us on the right of marching in lockstep with George W. Bush and the republicans. Painting with a broad brush is a trait that both sides have in common.
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There are, but it doesn't make him right. Also, those liberals are idiots, that includes me if I have ever done it.
 
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emainvol said:
Does anyone else find it interesting that, of all people, joevol bitches about partisanship?
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In the House: Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is planning to dispense with some of the House rules instituted by Newt Gingrich. And with a 256-178 majority (one vacancy), Democrats can do whatever they want. The Republican minority will no longer be able to introduce alternate legislation or offer amendments to Democrat bills and will not even be guaranteed open debate. All in the spirit of "bipartisanship," of course.


Nothing good will come if this emain!
 
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gsvol said:
In the House: Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is planning to dispense with some of the House rules instituted by Newt Gingrich. And with a 256-178 majority (one vacancy), Democrats can do whatever they want. The Republican minority will no longer be able to introduce alternate legislation or offer amendments to Democrat bills and will not even be guaranteed open debate. All in the spirit of "bipartisanship," of course.


Nothing good will come if this emain!
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isnt it ironic that the closed minded devisive republicans wrote that rule to allow the democrats to introduce amendment. however, the progressive, open-minded, diverse liberal would stop it. libs are pathetic hypocrites.
 
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gsvol said:
In the House: Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is planning to dispense with some of the House rules instituted by Newt Gingrich. And with a 256-178 majority (one vacancy), Democrats can do whatever they want. The Republican minority will no longer be able to introduce alternate legislation or offer amendments to Democrat bills and will not even be guaranteed open debate. All in the spirit of "bipartisanship," of course.


Nothing good will come if this emain!
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Have you read a single word in any of my posts? Apparently you haven't, or you wouldn't have brought me into this. Good god, there is just a whole world of dumb in the politics forum these days.
 
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