Penalties for show-boating

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We all know our #84 Patterson was flagged for 'high-stepping' across the goal line. My question is why aren't defensive players flagged when they make a big stop ? It happens often, and a lot more noticeable. Is it because the play is already dead?? I would just like to know,,, I don't see why a defensive player doesn't get flagged for the same thing an offensive player does.
 
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DoubleDVOL said:
We all know our #84 Patterson was flagged for 'high-stepping' across the goal line. My question is why aren't defensive players flagged when they make a big stop ? It happens often, and a lot more noticeable. Is it because the play is already dead?? I would just like to know,,, I don't see why a defensive player doesn't get flagged for the same thing an offensive player does.
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Yep, that is the reason. The play is dead so that is why. It's still a dumb rule. It is a game and they should be allowed to have some fun.
 
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They do - unsportsmanlike like conduct - excessive celebration. It's rare though. If they take their helmet off I think they automatically get flagged
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
They do - unsportsmanlike like conduct - excessive celebration. It's rare though. If they take their helmet off I think they automatically get flagged
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Correct. Except in the 2010 LSU game. We were flagged for 12 men on the field but officials selectively ignored the fact that an LSU player took off his helmet and either tossed it in the air or slammed it to the ground (perhaps someone else can refresh my memory on this point) on what should have been the final play of the game.
 
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The first show-boating penalty was clear, he was high stepping at the end. The second one for suspect to me, he was looking back and got turned around. I think the second one was called just because of his talent, so they assumed it must have been show-boating when it really was not. Maybe a blown call this this will change the outcome of the game and the crazy rule will be thrown out. I don't remember seeing that called for anyone else, even with some crazy show boating, like the gator chomp run around the end zone..
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
Correct. Except in the 2010 LSU game. We were flagged for 12 men on the field but officials selectively ignored the fact that an LSU player took off his helmet and either tossed it in the air or slammed it to the ground (perhaps someone else can refresh my memory on this point) on what should have been the final play of the game.
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He did it after the whistle blew signaling the end of the game, same thing with Mt Boobies in 2009.
 
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I think the primary reason is they felt CP was taunting. The one where we turned around and ran backwards over the goal line was in the ref's opinion taunting the defense. I guarantee you if a defensive player stood over an offensive player and made any kind of gesture they would get flagged.

I think the rule is ridiculous. CP's high stepping was so minor and was not directed at anyone. Let them play and have fun. What is the harm.
 
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Yeah, but with the 2009 Alabama and 2010 LSU games, the games were over. Not just the play, the game. I think that's why they were not flagged. It's not realy a penalty after the clock hits zero's. Right?
 
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xfactorutk said:
Yeah, but with the 2009 Alabama and 2010 LSU games, the games were over. Not just the play, the game. I think that's why they were not flagged. It's not realy a penalty after the clock hits zero's. Right?
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Yes. At that point, it's part of the post-game celebration. You can't draw a flag after the final whistle is blown. Sometimes you can run 1 more play, but never a flag.
 
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vol_sec said:
The first show-boating penalty was clear, he was high stepping at the end.
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High-stepping is a time honored way to keep from getting your heels clipped by a diving defender at the goal line. What CP did the first time was good, solid football.

The rule is imbecilic.
 
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I actually saw unsportsmanlike penalty called against a South Carolina DB in the Clemson game after he made a huge hit. Rather than simply celebrating with a chest bump with a team-mate or something, he starting running his mouth and flexed over the guy he blew up. When it happened, it had the potential of wrecking their chances of winning the game. That said, I think the rule goes a bit too far as it is currently enforced.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
Correct. Except in the 2010 LSU game. We were flagged for 12 men on the field but officials selectively ignored the fact that an LSU player took off his helmet and either tossed it in the air or slammed it to the ground (perhaps someone else can refresh my memory on this point) on what should have been the final play of the game.
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Should have been a 15 yard penalty. We got jobbed.
 
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2003 UGA back dove into the EZ against us , he got flagged, TD was good though, btw no defender near him on a punt return, penalty assessed on ko.
 
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This is by far the dumbest rule in all of sports. I can't believe the rule has not been changed/adjusted yet. They shouldn't get rid of it completely, just modify it some. The only celebration rules should be no props in a celebration, no extreme taunting (I.e. throat slash gesture, pointing ball at opponents), and no planned team celebrations. I swear it feels like the NCAA/NFL want to take the emotion out of football. NFL is not as bad as the NCAA is.
 
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dsimplified said:
This is by far the dumbest rule in all of sports. I can't believe the rule has not been changed/adjusted yet. They shouldn't get rid of it completely, just modify it some. The only celebration rules should be no props in a celebration, no extreme taunting (I.e. throat slash gesture, pointing ball at opponents), and no planned team celebrations. I swear it feels like the NCAA/NFL want to take the emotion out of football. NFL is not as bad as the NCAA is.
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You seam to forget the NFL stands for No Fun League...and now because of all the overreaction towards concussion issues and the anti-defense rules it now can be called the No Football League
 
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jps2194 said:
I think the primary reason is they felt CP was taunting. The one where we turned around and ran backwards over the goal line was in the ref's opinion taunting the defense. I guarantee you if a defensive player stood over an offensive player and made any kind of gesture they would get flagged.

I think the rule is ridiculous. CP's high stepping was so minor and was not directed at anyone. Let them play and have fun. What is the harm.
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Problem was he high stepped in for a touchdown a few plays before..the second time, which was clearly taunting, was a make good by the refs in my opinion.
 
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