Penn State scandal (merged)

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#2,501
volinreallife said:
He did move higher up the chain of command. Also he did not see he was told about it. Therefore if I was him I wold not go and make accusations that could be false. I would of told the, Director of Campus Safety & Enviromental Service, AD, then if that does not work you go to President of the university.
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I understand what you're saying, and you make some great points.

But sometimes, you just have to call the Police. Plain and simple.
 
#2,503
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DrunkJohnny said:
Sandusky admitted to fondling a child in 98 or 99. Are you claiming that JoePa never knew about this either?

Maybe "great football coach" should start coming into question too.
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How would JoePa know about this? He was only there for 60 years, he was still getting acclimated to campus.
 
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Vols520 said:
No. But there is no proof that happened.
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If by "proof" you mean EVIDENCE, there is tons of it. It's all laid out in the grand jury indictment...including a tape-recorded conversation between the mother of one of the victims and the pervert during which he admits wrongdoing, asks for her forgiveness and says he'd be better off dead.
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#2,505
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DrunkJohnny said:
Sandusky admitted to fondling a child in 98 or 99. Are you claiming that JoePa never knew about this either?

Maybe "great football coach" should start coming into question too.
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Maybe you should look at who could possibly be involved. Have you ever saw a movie where the lead actor tells somebody what happens and come to find out the person he told was in on it too. Nah me either.
 
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volinreallife said:
Maybe you should look at who could possibly be involved. Have you ever saw a movie where the lead actor tells somebody what happens and come to find out the person he told was in on it too. Nah me either.
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What? Joe Paterno didn't know his Defensive Coordinator of 30 years was being investigated for child molestation? And that he admitted to groping a child?

Is this what you're going with now?
 
#2,512
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volinreallife said:
My character? I'm with you guys that Jerry should get what is coming to him, but Joe Pa did what was ethically required of him.
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No. He did not. He should not have stopped until he made sure that the child was safe and cared for appropriately.

Period. No questions, no judgements. Period.

I don't want to personally deride you or attack you, but you really need to get a clue.
 
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Vols520 said:
He did tell the head of penn state pd
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No. He did not. In a university, there is a big difference between the administrator that oversees the police force, and the chief of the police force.

Hell, I bet Paterno knows the UPD chief by name. His ass should have picked up the phone and called him to have him meet at the VPs office.

Some of you people really scare me.
 
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Vols520 said:
He did tell the head of penn state pd
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I agree that there were faults on so many levels that its quite disturbing, but when I think of campus police i don't think of anything higher than a parking ticket.

You call the actual police, he should have known this. It's common sense.
 
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Vols520 said:
He did tell the head of penn state pd
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to me, that almost makes it worse because it shoes Paterno understood the gravity og the allegations yet Sandusky was still using the weight room last Friday.
 
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volinreallife said:
Again you need to look at an ethics definition before you say I am wrong. This is a business.
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No i don't. I don't need Merriam Webster to tell me what ethics are.

This is not freaking business, these are young, extremely vulnerable children. You can't possible believe that Joe Pa or anyone involved made a single ethically sound decision. Not one.

Surely you are just playing devil's advocate here for the sake of discussion.
 
#2,520
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pl3 said:
Since you can google and copy/paste, explain how that definition of ethics provides you the ammo to say JoePa acted ethically.

Can't wait to hear this.
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Lets go with right human conduct.

1. He told people that were higher up on the totem pole than he was.

2. He did not make claims that could be false, he told what he was told to people higher on the totem pole^

Lets test your knowledge of ethics. Sample

If you own a store and one person has been robbed there in the last year are you ethically required to put a warning sign up?
 
#2,521
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1world1love said:
No. He did not. In a university, there is a big difference between the administrator that oversees the police force, and the chief of the police force.

Hell, I bet Paterno knows the UPD chief by name. His ass should have picked up the phone and called him to have him meet at the VPs office.

Some of you people really scare me.
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It's pretty clear Paterno only told the people that have been involved in covering this up the entire time.
 
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PapaBurgundy said:
No i don't. I don't need Merriam Webster to tell me what ethics are.

This is not freaking business, these are young, extremely vulnerable children. You can't possible believe that Joe Pa or anyone involved made a single ethically sound decision. Not one.

Surely you are just playing devil's advocate here for the sake of discussion.
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I did not say the young children were a business. Do I need to right this in crayons. The whole school is a business. The Athletic Department is a business. Please hop on that.

How is going up the chain of command not an ethical decision? Please do tell.
 
#2,524
#2,524
so you report the person to the "police" for a crime yet still allow them to hang around and use the facilities for a decade following? How does this jive with your "did everything ethically" stance?
 
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