Penn State scandal (merged)

[utvolpj]

Give me a break pj. A good sign for when you have lost a battle is when you start making fun or bring up things that have nothing to do with the argument.

This has happen before don't fool yourself.

you used a movie script example to back up your claims. Was anyone really supposed to take that seriously?

 

[emzeeee]

I did not say the young children were a business. Do I need to right this in crayons. The whole school is a business. The Athletic Department is a business. Please hop on that.

How is going up the chain of command not an ethical decision? Please do tell.

Please do.

Ethics are also defined as:

"Moral principles that govern a person's or group's behavior."

Morals:

"A person's standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and what is not acceptable for them to do."


When someone rapes your son at work, make sure to just tell your boss. It's the ethical thing to do.

 

[LawVol13]

I did not say the young children were a business. Do I need to right this in crayons. The whole school is a business. The Athletic Department is a business. Please hop on that.

How is going up the chain of command not an ethical decision? Please do tell.

Apparently the kids were part of the business. If you're trying to defend anyone on this damn thing where they are now accused of pimping out little boys to donors and whose negligence in reporting it allowed this to continue, then you're as sick as they are.

 

[PapaBurgundy]

I did not say the young children were a business. Do I need to right this in crayons. The whole school is a business. The Athletic Department is a business. Please hop on that.

How is going up the chain of command not an ethical decision? Please do tell.

Because this outside of the realms of a university or the athletic department. This isn't a "handshake" with a booster or fudging grades. This is above and beyond the scope of anything either of these organizations have the capacity to handle.

And come on, campus PD? Have you ever dealt with the numbskulls that are on campus PD (sorry if any of you are...)? There is probably a reason they aren't real police. Hell, most of the actual police force on campus are students.

This is an unfathomable CRIME. Come on dude...

 

[DrunkJohnny]

nope not at all what I am going with.

So Joe Paterno knew in 1998 that Sandusky admitted to groping a child? Yet he allowed him to use his facilities to rape a child in 2002? Is that ethical?

 

[orangeluvr]

We all know what it's like to be right in the middle of a s--t storm. Be that as it may, some are worse than others. Glad it isn't us. :blush:

 

[Domestic Silence]

I did not say the young children were a business. Do I need to right this in crayons. The whole school is a business. The Athletic Department is a business. Please hop on that.

How is going up the chain of command not an ethical decision? Please do tell.

I sure hope no one ever has to count on you stopping children from being raped, you've got a business to run.

 

[knucklehead_vol]

Lets go with right human conduct.

1. He told people that were higher up on the totem pole than he was.

2. He did not make claims that could be false, he told what he was told to people higher on the totem pole^

Lets test your knowledge of ethics. Sample

If you own a store and one person has been robbed there in the last year are you ethically required to put a warning sign up?

Wasn't he the highest on that totem pole?

 

[Spartacavolus]

Lets go with right human conduct.

1. He told people that were higher up on the totem pole than he was.

2. He did not make claims that could be false, he told what he was told to people higher on the totem pole^

Lets test your knowledge of ethics. Sample

If you own a store and one person has been robbed there in the last year are you ethically required to put a warning sign up?

I don't need a person that lacks common sense to "test" my ethics with some bs example of a jiffy mart robbery, thinking it's the same thing as a leader of a University allowing molestation to continue on his campus.

I refuse to argue any more with someone who's brain has the same function, or lack thereof, that allows a person to come to the conclusions that you are coming to. Sadly, I'm not surprised that there are actually people this dumb spouting off.

 

[knucklehead_vol]

These were children being molested. And scarred forever. And afraid of people in authority positions for the rest of their lives.

**** your "business".

Amen brother.

 

[DrunkJohnny]

I don't need a person that lacks common sense to "test" my ethics with some bs example of a jiffy mart robbery, thinking it's the same thing as a leader of a University allowing molestation to continue on his campus.

I refuse to argue any more with someone who's brain has the same function, or lack thereof, that allows a person to come to the conclusions that you are coming to. Sadly, I'm not surprised that there are actually people this dumb spouting off.

lol:

 

[Vols520]

This is def one time im in the minority, but the outrage and anger is so misguided here it's driving me crazy.
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[LawVol13]

How is going up the chain of command not an ethical decision? Please do tell.

Do you honestly think that's what people are saying is unethical? If so, you're a complete idiot. What people are saying is unethical is the fact that he let Mr. Sandusky free reign of the football facilities that allowed him to victimize countless other victims. Paterno knew he ass raped a kid, and took no further actions and then sat by and watched the guy come and go as he pleased for the next 10 years. That's the unethical part. Again, it's hilarious that you're pretending that you've any type of argument on this. You're simply just making yourself look stupid.

 

[VolsNSkinsFan]

Hmm whats this about?

Connor suspended for prank calling

Saturday, August 20, 2005
By Chico Harlan, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


Three Penn State football players -- including starting linebacker Dan Connor -- face discipline after making a series of prank calls that "escalated to the point of harassment," athletic department spokesman Jeff Nelson said in a statement released yesterday.
Connor, a sophomore, has been suspended indefinitely. He still remains on the team, but the length of his punishment is unknown. "[Head coach Joe Paterno] will decide what level of participation he will have," Nelson, speaking by phone, said.

Consequences for the other two players, junior safety Nolan McCready and junior wide receiver Jim Kanuch, have yet to be determined. Other Penn State players may have participated in the prank calling, Nelson confirmed yesterday. After more facts are gathered, Paterno will determine the punishment for the remainder of those involved.

The victim of the prank calls, according to several sources, is a retired member of the Penn State football family. Nelson refused to comment on the identity of the victim.

The prank calls, which began in the late spring and continued through the summer, were investigated by the State College Police Department, leading to "summary offenses" for Connor, Kanuch and McCready. Those issued summary offenses -- akin to disorderly conduct charges -- are required to pay fines. A spokesperson for the State College police was unavailable last night to comment.

Last season, as a true freshman, Connor played in every game -- starting in four of them -- and finished second on the team with 85 tackles. Kanuch was switched from safety to wideout at the start of spring practice after playing sparingly last season. McCready, a fourth-year junior, is a reserve defensive back.

 

[Spartacavolus]

This is def one time im in the minority, but the outrage and anger is so misguided here it's driving me crazy.
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Dan Patrick disagrees with you, as do 99% of people outside of the PSU campus.

You hold that line though. You're going to look great when more info comes out.

 

[OrangeInKy]

I don't think JoePas biggest fault was not calling the cops.

It was letting the pederast continue to use his facilities for over a decade after finding out.

It's indefensible.

. this. Also, it appears he still supported Secon Mile knowing what he knew. He could have had that thing shut down, right? Wasn't he still on the board?
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[LawVol13]

This is def one time im in the minority, but the outrage and anger is so misguided here it's driving me crazy.
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You know, I tried being nice to you, but the continued claims of ignorance and other ridiculous talk is starting to really bother me. Are you now saying the anger about 20+ kids being sodomized by a coach where multiple people had the chance to stop it but simply chose not to is misguided? If so, you have some real problems.

 

[volinreallife]

Apparently the kids were part of the business. If you're trying to defend anyone on this damn thing where they are now accused of pimping out little boys to donors and whose negligence in reporting it allowed this to continue, then you're as sick as they are.

I don't know how many times I have to write this, but I am all for them getting what they deserve. All I am saying is that Joe Pa did what was ethically required of him.

 

[Brave Volunteer]

I did not say the young children were a business. Do I need to right this in crayons. The whole school is a business. The Athletic Department is a business. Please hop on that.

How is going up the chain of command not an ethical decision? Please do tell.

Let me ask you this. Do you think the seriousness in which Paterno treated the information given to him in any way did justice to the seriousness of the information itself?

 

[OrangeInKy]

It's pretty clear Paterno only told the people that have been involved in covering this up the entire time.

We have a winner.
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[Lulu]

He did tell the head of penn state pd
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Using your logic, you better keep your mayor's number ready. Next time you're the victim of a crime, give him a call. Let us know how that goes.
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[Domestic Silence]

This is def one time im in the minority, but the outrage and anger is so misguided here it's driving me crazy.
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No one is saying JoePa did the raping, but to act like he couldn't have had a hand in stopping it is absurd.

I don't think some of you understand the power that man has in State College. He IS Penn State.

Sometimes with power comes responsibility, not just privilege.

 

[volinreallife]

Please do.

Ethics are also defined as:

"Moral principles that govern a person's or group's behavior."

Morals:

"A person's standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and what is not acceptable for them to do."


When someone rapes your son at work, make sure to just tell your boss. It's the ethical thing to do.

Good thing the business world is not back by morals, because 90% of the people who run it would be in jail.

 

[Vols520]

Dan Patrick disagrees with you, as do 99% of people outside of the PSU campus.

You hold that line though. You're going to look great when more info comes out.

The fact is I am waiting to get more information you mental midget. If more information comes to light on Paterno then I wont defend the guy.
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[Domestic Silence]

Report: Jerry Sandusky Pimped Out Kids To Rich Donors