Penn State scandal (merged)

[volinreallife]

in your business would you allow an admitted child abuser/pedophile continued access to your building and allow him to use your facilities for the next decade to host a kids charity? Is that doing everything ethically possible to handle the situation?

No.

In 2002 JP told his higher personnel what he was told. Ethical? Yes

 

[LawVol13]

Just a question for someone in law school, I'm not defending Joe Pa at all.

Legally, after talking to the person ahead of him in the chain of command, he's in the clear, correct?

I don't know Pennsylvania's laws on this. When did it become a federal law that you must call the police if you see something like this?

Once again, I'm defending Paterno. I assume he had to know Sandusky was a sicko.

I think this is probably how it goes up there: First, I think Joe Pa might have an argument if he reported it and then denied Sandusky access to any of the facilities; he didn't. Second, I think it's most likely that Joe Pa wields more power up there than the AD; thus, the little "protocol" is meaningless. Third, they knew exactly what was going on and not only didn't report it but enabled it by giving the guy a damn facility to continue his mission of raping kids. There is more than enough to indict them all on conspiracy charges; then that would open Pandora's box of the evidence of the coverup. My guess: Paterno is heavily, heavily involved in keeping all this in the dark.

 

[LawVol13]

Wooooooohhhhhhhh now don't bring that in here because this guy should of told the CIA.

He didn't take your side

 

[DrunkJohnny]

Oh really it doesn't happen there?

Does Joe Paterno not have the ability to control who uses his locker rooms?

 

[volinreallife]

Simple question vol, Do you think the seriousness in which Paterno treated the information given to him in any way did justice to the seriousness of the information itself?

depends on how it was told to him. I really do not think anybody knows exactly what was told to him. Now if it comes back that he was told very graphically bad things then there should of been some urgency in what was told to AD etc.

It all really depends on the guy who saw it in my honest opinion.

 

[Vols520]

He pretends he doesn't see your messages when you show him facts that completely blow his dumbass comments out of the water.

Huh? I read most grand jury stuff. Is he tslking abkht something else?

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[alumvol08]

Most people agree that he acted as he should have LEGALLY. But morally, it's gross that he didn't make sure it didn't happen again.

I'm unsure of the criminal negligence laws in Pennsylvania.

As more information comes out, there is the possibility that he could face perjury or obstruction of justice. An aggressive prosecutor could possibly make an argument for conspiracy. All would depend on more details.

 

[volinreallife]

Does Joe Paterno not have the ability to control who uses his locker rooms?

Possibly. I would say it has to be cleared by the AD before anything can be done.

 

[2ironVol]

I don't know how many times I have to write this, but I am all for them getting what they deserve. All I am saying is that Joe Pa did what was ethically required of him.

All I am telling you, for the third time, is that you're wrong. That's a fact. YOu obviously have no clue whatsoever as to the meaning of ethics.

I am certain you will learn one day. Right now, by continuing to take an ignorant stand, you're making yourself look foolish.

Hang in there:clapping:

 

[1world1love]

I think this is probably how it goes up there: First, I think Joe Pa might have an argument if he reported it and then denied Sandusky access to any of the facilities; he didn't. Second, I think it's most likely that Joe Pa wields more power up there than the AD; thus, the little "protocol" is meaningless. Third, they knew exactly what was going on and not only didn't report it but enabled it by giving the guy a damn facility to continue his mission of raping kids. There is more than enough to indict them all on conspiracy charges; then that would open Pandora's box of the evidence of the coverup. My guess: Paterno is heavily, heavily involved in keeping all this in the dark.

I think at the very least, he just didn't want to get involved. From what he has said and the GJ report, it seems like he put his head in the sand and tried to pretend that this friend of his was not going around raping children.

 

[LawVol13]

depends on how it was told to him. I really do not think anybody knows exactly what was told to him. Now if it comes back that he was told very graphically bad things then there should of been some urgency in what was told to AD etc.

Again, how ignorant and misinformed are you? He has already admitted what he was told. Christ, you're pathetic.

 

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[utvolpj]

No.

In 2002 JP told his higher personnel what he was told. Ethical? Yes

but continued use of the facilities was not? How were his actions match up in any way with your argument? JoePa still allowed access to the same rooms where he was previously raping young boys. If you still think he did everything he could then you are simply clueless

 

[alumvol08]

lol, no. I don't think anybody has.

Oh someone has said that very thing...

 

[DrunkJohnny]

Possibly. I would say it has to be cleared by the AD before anything can be done.

Good grief.

 

[volinreallife]

He didn't take your side

did not say he did lawvol, but he put something in there that goes right along with what I was saying.

 

[utvolpj]

Possibly. I would say it has to be cleared by the AD before anything can be done.

Dooley can kick ex-players out of UT's facilities in his first year but JoePa had to get clearance by the AD? Seriously?

 

[LawVol13]

did not say he did lawvol, but he put something in there that goes right along with what I was saying.

No, he didn't.

 

[volinreallife]

Good grief.

So your saying that is not true. So when JP wants something done like a new building he just goes and gets it done?

 

[LawVol13]

Dooley can kick ex-players out of UT's facilities in his first year but JoePa had to get clearance by the AD? Seriously?

His argument gets more pathetic with each post. He not only is ignorant of the facts, but now he's just making up ridiculous garbage like that.

 

[utvolpj]

Wooooooohhhhhhhh now don't bring that in here because this guy should of told the CIA.

I saw a movie once where the main character called the CIA on someone so it's definitely an option

 

[volinreallife]

Just a question for someone in law school, I'm not defending Joe Pa at all.

Legally, after talking to the person ahead of him in the chain of command, he's in the clear, as of the law in 2002 correct?

I don't know Pennsylvania's laws on this. When did it become a federal law that you must call the police if you see something like this?

Once again, I'm defending Paterno. I assume he had to know Sandusky was a sicko.

What do you know lawvol? I have been saying that for how long now?

 

[volinreallife]

Dooley can kick ex-players out of UT's facilities in his first year but JoePa had to get clearance by the AD? Seriously?

This was not about ex players this is about an employee.

 

[LawVol13]

I have been saying that for how long now?

You've not said that once that I've seen. You're saying Paterno had done all that was required of him "ethically." Groves is saying he did everything required of him "legally." I know that's very difficult for someone like yourself to understand that.

 

[Vols520]

Reminds me of Salem witch trials a little.
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