Penn State students mocking VT victims!

#2
#2
very poor taste, but partying college students aren't known for their judgment calls
 
#3
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The history of pranks with black face, nooses, etc. is long and this is just added to that list. Inexcusable. Thanks to the internet these people will be widely known which makes for difficulty to forget. I always love the companies that are now using Google as a tool to find info on people before hiring.
 
#4
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very poor taste, but partying college students aren't known for their judgment calls

Agreed.

Was this absolutely stupid? Yes

Is this really newsworthy to the point of a TV station interviewing the kid? No

Listen, I did some STUPID things in college. Not quite this bad but damn near close. I can't even imagine pictures of some of those nights getting publicity like this.
 
#6
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I thought Penn State had more class than that. I understand that there are always some idiots everywhere you go, but I would have expected them to get the living crap beat out of them by some of the people at the party, or told them to leave or something.
 
#7
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I thought Penn State had more class than that. I understand that there are always some idiots everywhere you go, but I would have expected them to get the living crap beat out of them by some of the people at the party, or told them to leave or something.

So the penalty for expressing an unpopular opinion is violence? What did a couple of college students dressed in inappropriate costumes do to deserve that?

I saw costumes every bit as bad while at UT but thankfully they were before facebook/myspace. Doesn't make it right but it happens.
 
#8
#8
So the penalty for expressing an unpopular opinion is violence? What did a couple of college students dressed in inappropriate costumes do to deserve that?

I saw costumes every bit as bad while at UT but thankfully they were before facebook/myspace. Doesn't make it right but it happens.

I was extreme on the violence, but what opinion was expressed in doing that? I don't see how the people at the party could just let them make fun of whoever. At least make fun of someone who is alive and can defend themselves. Don't go and poke fun at people who were shot and killed.

I am sure it has happened before, but that in no way makes it right or can be used as an excuse.
 
#9
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At least make fun of someone who is alive and can defend themselves. Don't go and poke fun at people who were shot and killed.

I dressed as Abe Lincoln one year, sorry.

The only thing wrong is the timing. You don't have to like that they did it but they have every right to be as stupid/tasteless as they choose to be.
 
#10
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And everyone else has the right to berate them for that choice. Thanks to the information age, they will have this poor choice hanging over their heads constantly.
 
#11
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I dressed as Abe Lincoln one year, sorry.

The only thing wrong is the timing. You don't have to like that they did it but they have every right to be as stupid/tasteless as they choose to be.

Did you dress as Abe Lincoln with a bullet hole from Booth? No.

Timing is definately not the only thing wrong with those kids. If I were at the party they went to I would have confronted them, without a doubt.

What would you think a relative of one of the dead would have done had they been at PSU and seen the kids? I would hope they would confront them violently. And yes, I am advocating violence in this situation. A whole hell of a lot of it.
 
#12
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And everyone else has the right to berate them for that choice. Thanks to the information age, they will have this poor choice hanging over their heads constantly.

and I agree everyone has that right but 2 out of 11 posts in this thread have advocated beating up the offenders for their actions. That actually saddens me more than what the PSU students did. Our laws allow people to be idiots and say stupid things without the fear of being harmed. While in no way agree with what they did I do agree with their right to do it.

If I sound callous then I apologize. Believe me I understand the situation. My g/f's sister is in grad school at VT and works on campus. That day was terrible at our house.
 
#13
#13
Our laws allow for punishment for those who break them. The laws do not stop people from countering with stupid actions. They punish people for doing something stupid that is illegal. There will always be consequences to every stupid action. You cannot expect to face something for doing something like that. Yes we have free speech. You have a right to say what you want. But also realize people can also counter with what they want. Just as there are people who do stupid things like this, there are people who counter in the same manner. Laws do not stop fear. I think a Klansman marching in a minority neighborhood waving a Confederate Battle Flag still has fear. It's stupid to do so but he has the right. It doesn't mean he won't be punched, spat upon, rocks thrown at him, or threatened with his life.

It's like the saying with each action brings an equal and opposite reaction. It doesn't mean either are right but it will happen.
 
#14
#14
Sickening display of pushing the envelope for "shock value". Poor choices made by both PSU students.
 
#16
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Did you dress as Abe Lincoln with a bullet hole from Booth? No.

Timing is definately not the only thing wrong with those kids. If I were at the party they went to I would have confronted them, without a doubt.

What would you think a relative of one of the dead would have done had they been at PSU and seen the kids? I would hope they would confront them violently. And yes, I am advocating violence in this situation. A whole hell of a lot of it.

:eek:lol:
 
#17
#17
I've got no personal stake in the matter, so I probably wouldn't beat the hell out of them if I saw them.

That being said, sometimes an ass whipping is the only way to deal with people that show extremely poor taste.
 
#18
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If I sound callous then I apologize. Believe me I understand the situation. My g/f's sister is in grad school at VT and works on campus. That day was terrible at our house.

I am sorry that your girlfriend's sister had to witness that, but what if it was someone who you knew very well who was killed. Then you see someone at a party who is dressed like the ones who were killed. I am not saying I know what those families are going through because I don't, but I couldn't just sit there with my tail between my legs and not confront them.

Sure it is legal, but sometimes you have to stand up for what you know is right.
 
#19
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I am sorry that your girlfriend's sister had to witness that, but what if it was someone who you knew very well who was killed. Then you see someone at a party who is dressed like the ones who were killed. I am not saying I know what those families are going through because I don't, but I couldn't just sit there with my tail between my legs and not confront them.

Sure it is legal, but sometimes you have to stand up for what you know is right.

You then open the can of worms as to what is right? Is it right to justify violence against poor taste? Maybe violence is warranted for poor service at a restaurant?

The thing is, violence is no way to deal with anything. They can say whatever they want, it's protected. Beating someone up dressed as a VT victim makes you as bad, if not worse.

What they did was in very poor taste, but really...not any worse than any other "shock" costumes. Hitler, abe lincoln shot, etc...it happens.

I agree with the kids, however, about us focusing in on this ONE tragedy when thousands die every day. We are so concerned with polarizing events, soundbites, etc that we rarely see the big picture.
 
#21
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You then open the can of worms as to what is right? Is it right to justify violence against poor taste? Maybe violence is warranted for poor service at a restaurant?

The thing is, violence is no way to deal with anything. They can say whatever they want, it's protected. Beating someone up dressed as a VT victim makes you as bad, if not worse.

What they did was in very poor taste, but really...not any worse than any other "shock" costumes. Hitler, abe lincoln shot, etc...it happens.

I agree with the kids, however, about us focusing in on this ONE tragedy when thousands die every day. We are so concerned with polarizing events, soundbites, etc that we rarely see the big picture.

1) In no way can you even begin to compare poor service at a restaurant and the idiotic thing that they did.

2) Please read the whole thread before you respond to comments at the end of it. I clearly stated in an earlier post that I was too extreme advocating violence.

3) I never doubted that that stuff doesn't happen, but it doesn't mean that I, or anyone else, has to accept it.

4) You say that I open a can of worms as to what is right, then you say that we rarely see the big picture. Is the difference between right and wrong not the big picture?
 

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