People's problem with Chism..

[allvol21]

I have seen people complaining for years about Wayne taking so many three's.

I don't have a problem with him shooting an open 3 at all and never will. I have never looked up his % from beyond the arc and really don't care. I feel like he is a good enough shooter to take those looks. I would much rather see him shoot a three than woolridge,goins, or prince from beyond 10 feet for that matter.

What I do have a problem with is when he is constantly floating on the perimeter. He can be very productive in the paint when he decides to. I understand in the flex the post and guards interchange on down screens and back screens but alot of times he is standing around beyond the arc outside of the half court o and I can definitely see where people who know basketball can become frustrated with that due to his lack of presence around the rim where he is most dominant. What I am sick and tired of is people who don't know basketball are griping and moaning about a post player shooting shots outside of 15 feet. This versatility of him being able to knock down shots from the perimeter really helps his NBA stock because his size and strength won't be dominant alone in the next level.

 

[Cackalaka Vol]

I had a much bigger problem with his outside prescence two years ago when he didn't look comfortable out there. I have zero problem with his shot selection this year. He is a proven commodity outside the arc and makes good decisions. He could be dominant if he stayed within 10 feet but that is a problem with the half court sets, not Wayne. He just needs to keep "slangin' that rubber".

 

[m37bruno]

I have seen people complaining for years about Wayne taking so many three's.

I don't have a problem with him shooting an open 3 at all and never will. I have never looked up his % from beyond the arc and really don't care. I feel like he is a good enough shooter to take those looks. I would much rather see him shoot a three than woolridge,goins, or prince from beyond 10 feet for that matter.

What I do have a problem with is when he is constantly floating on the perimeter. He can be very productive in the paint when he decides to. I understand in the flex the post and guards interchange on down screens and back screens but alot of times he is standing around beyond the arc outside of the half court o and I can definitely see where people who know basketball can become frustrated with that due to his lack of presence around the rim where he is most dominant. What I am sick and tired of is people who don't know basketball are griping and moaning about a post player shooting shots outside of 15 feet. This versatility of him being able to knock down shots from the perimeter really helps his NBA stock because his size and strength won't be dominant alone in the next level.

Oh but if you ask some people Chism is a Post in the next level and needs to stay down low...hahahaha

CHism has to be able to shot if he wants to make it in the NBA...He is too little to make it as a post...

Now I don't agree with your comment on Woolridge...He can shot the ball he just looks a little timid because he has not got the time he needs to get comfortable. Ok and he is a little uncoordinated...but he can stroke the 3 ball if he is open...and he plays hard when he is in the game...I would like to see his defense improve...

I am more concerned with Tatum and Hopson....When are these guys going to show up on a consistent basis??????

I mean I see flashes from Hopson and then its like the next scene is him getting beat off the dribble or him missing a "HIGH" arking shot...For some to have said he would be a one and done I dont think they saw this coming...

Our guard play is not any better then last year for the exception of Maze knocking down a few more shots...

T.Smith seems to have lost his heart for the game...He is not taking the ball to the basket like he used to and I have not seen him take but maybe a few 3 point shots. I heard he was working on that all SUMMER???? He is our leader and has to step up and make these guys around him better...

Brian Williams has not improved that much from last year either...:cray:

I do like Kenny Hall I think he is going to be a force inside for us...
I will really like when Tobias gets here and we can see Hall,McBee,Tobias,Golden,Jordan...That would be a pretty solid starting line..
Yeah I said "Sweet Tea McBee" I like how he plays..when he gets comfortable in the next year or so he is going to be a player for us...He works hard and plays tough..If he can just work on his defense he will be a better Dane Bradshaw...The Kid will be money from 3 the more he gets comfortable with his role and his team...

 

[lylsmorr]

Oh but if you ask some people Chism is a Post in the next level and needs to stay down low...hahahaha

CHism has to be able to shot if he wants to make it in the NBA...He is too little to make it as a post...

Now I don't agree with your comment on Woolridge...He can shot the ball he just looks a little timid because he has not got the time he needs to get comfortable. Ok and he is a little uncoordinated...but he can stroke the 3 ball if he is open...and he plays hard when he is in the game...I would like to see his defense improve...

I am more concerned with Tatum and Hopson....When are these guys going to show up on a consistent basis??????

I mean I see flashes from Hopson and then its like the next scene is him getting beat off the dribble or him missing a "HIGH" arking shot...For some to have said he would be a one and done I dont think they saw this coming...

Our guard play is not any better then last year for the exception of Maze knocking down a few more shots...

T.Smith seems to have lost his heart for the game...He is not taking the ball to the basket like he used to and I have not seen him take but maybe a few 3 point shots. I heard he was working on that all SUMMER???? He is our leader and has to step up and make these guys around him better...

Brian Williams has not improved that much from last year either...:cray:

I do like Kenny Hall I think he is going to be a force inside for us...
I will really like when Tobias gets here and we can see Hall,McBee,Tobias,Golden,Jordan...That would be a pretty solid starting line..
Yeah I said "Sweet Tea McBee" I like how he plays..when he gets comfortable in the next year or so he is going to be a player for us...He works hard and plays tough..If he can just work on his defense he will be a better Dane Bradshaw...The Kid will be money from 3 the more he gets comfortable with his role and his team...

Come on now, he is Carlos Boozers size. That's crap

 

[m37bruno]

Yeah he is about the same size as boozer...I mean boozer is about 20 pounds heavier but Boozer is not really considered a dominant post player...I am talking about the Shaq, D. Howards, Big Z, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Amare Stoudemire, Bosch, Bynum... guys that have size are going to Kill Chism at the next level. He does not play good against guys who have size now so it will not get better at the next level.

If he can shot the ball he will be more effective in the next level. He will be able to go against guys his size...Chism could be more like a Josh Howard or Rasheed Wallace type player if he can learn to knock down a few jumpers. He has a good release on the ball and moves pretty quickly for his size...Dont know about his dribbles though???

 

[PentagonVol]

It also sounds like Chism is playing hurt. Any one know the details? I think folks don't give him enough credit for being a fine ball player with a lot of heart.

 

[orange'nwhite25]

Oh but if you ask some people Chism is a Post in the next level and needs to stay down low...hahahaha

CHism has to be able to shot if he wants to make it in the NBA...He is too little to make it as a post...

Now I don't agree with your comment on Woolridge...He can shot the ball he just looks a little timid because he has not got the time he needs to get comfortable. Ok and he is a little uncoordinated...but he can stroke the 3 ball if he is open...and he plays hard when he is in the game...I would like to see his defense improve...

I am more concerned with Tatum and Hopson....When are these guys going to show up on a consistent basis??????

I mean I see flashes from Hopson and then its like the next scene is him getting beat off the dribble or him missing a "HIGH" arking shot...For some to have said he would be a one and done I dont think they saw this coming...

Our guard play is not any better then last year for the exception of Maze knocking down a few more shots...

T.Smith seems to have lost his heart for the game...He is not taking the ball to the basket like he used to and I have not seen him take but maybe a few 3 point shots. I heard he was working on that all SUMMER???? He is our leader and has to step up and make these guys around him better...

Brian Williams has not improved that much from last year either...:cray:

I do like Kenny Hall I think he is going to be a force inside for us...
I will really like when Tobias gets here and we can see Hall,McBee,Tobias,Golden,Jordan...That would be a pretty solid starting line..
Yeah I said "Sweet Tea McBee" I like how he plays..when he gets comfortable in the next year or so he is going to be a player for us...He works hard and plays tough..If he can just work on his defense he will be a better Dane Bradshaw...The Kid will be money from 3 the more he gets comfortable with his role and his team... [/QUOTE ]

The Rockets are using Chuck Hayes who is 6'6" and is a center. Also Atlanta has Josh Smith, he's 6'9". Wayne's height is not a problem.

 

[BasketVolKid]

josh smith is a beast and an incredible athlete... and plays PF not center.

chism is not a 3 point shooter. he is a post player that can shoot the 3 better than most post players... problem is... he now thinks he is a 3 point shooter.

 

[whocaresgobobcats]

Yeah he is about the same size as boozer...I mean boozer is about 20 pounds heavier but Boozer is not really considered a dominant post player...I am talking about the Shaq, D. Howards, Big Z, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Amare Stoudemire, Bosch, Bynum... guys that have size are going to Kill Chism at the next level. He does not play good against guys who have size now so it will not get better at the next level.

If he can shot the ball he will be more effective in the next level. He will be able to go against guys his size...Chism could be more like a Josh Howard or Rasheed Wallace type player if he can learn to knock down a few jumpers. He has a good release on the ball and moves pretty quickly for his size...Dont know about his dribbles though???

Boozer is a two time All-Star, All-NBA 3rd Team in 08 and has been on two Olympic teams. He is a VERY good player who always hangs tough with the guys you mentioned. I think injuries have gotten him the last couple of years, but he is a top 20 players when healthy.

 

[johnnybravo]

I had a much bigger problem with his outside prescence two years ago when he didn't look comfortable out there. I have zero problem with his shot selection this year. He is a proven commodity outside the arc and makes good decisions. He could be dominant if he stayed within 10 feet but that is a problem with the half court sets, not Wayne. He just needs to keep "slangin' that rubber".

Well, I think that is most people's problem with Chism has been his shot selection. If he's around the wing, his 3 point shooting is not very good. When he is moving and around the perimeter and then shoots a three, then his 3 point shooting is not very good. When he is trailing or spotted up at the top of the key, then his shot is exceptionally good. He just has a history of taking too many of the bad shots.

 

[jlovevols]

I'm ok with him shooting the occasional 3 (1-2 per game), but he went 1/7 against USC. That wasn't very helpful. After he hits 1, he tends to get overzealous and jacks up several more.

 

[travisvols]

I hated his shot against Purdue when we needed a high percentage basket

 

[Recoil]

It's not Wayne's height that will limit him, it's his lack of basketball ability.

 

[Recoil]

Compare Chism to any 4 you can think of currently in the NBA. Then, decide if you like the match up. There's your answer.

 

[lylsmorr]

Yeah he is about the same size as boozer...I mean boozer is about 20 pounds heavier but Boozer is not really considered a dominant post player...I am talking about the Shaq, D. Howards, Big Z, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Amare Stoudemire, Bosch, Bynum... guys that have size are going to Kill Chism at the next level. He does not play good against guys who have size now so it will not get better at the next level.

If he can shot the ball he will be more effective in the next level. He will be able to go against guys his size...Chism could be more like a Josh Howard or Rasheed Wallace type player if he can learn to knock down a few jumpers. He has a good release on the ball and moves pretty quickly for his size...Dont know about his dribbles though???

Now this is just my opinion, but Wayne does not have the handles to be a 3. It's pretty poor from what I have seen. Tyler has the handles to play the 3 spot more so than Wayne. If Chism puts on...oh, 10-15 OF MUSCLE he would definitely be able to hang in the paint with some of the guys you mentioned in the NBA. Even big fat Shaq can't fight off a good box out. If he works on those fundamentals then I honestly do think he can do whatever he puts his mind to, For the sake of our team I hope he puts his mind into being a dominant post presence.

 

[Velo Vol]

I think folks don't give him enough credit for being a fine ball player with a lot of heart.

I would think of him as having more heart if he was banging under the boards rather than playing shooting guard 22 feet from the basket.

 

[allvol21]

I'm OK with him shooting the occasional 3 (1-2 per game), but he went 1/7 against USC. That wasn't very helpful. After he hits 1, he tends to get overzealous and jacks up several more.

Yea I don't know what the hell he was thinking. He should have been in the post and letting our guards handle the perimeter shooting. Considering that we were a combined 2/22 from beyond the arc chism's shot selection probably cost us the game. I'm sure it had nothing to do with our half court D.

 

[lylsmorr]

Yea I don't know what the hell he was thinking. He should have been in the post and letting our guards handle the perimeter shooting. Considering that we were a combined 2/22 from beyond the arc chism's shot selection probably cost us the game. I'm sure it had nothing to do with our half court D.

Let me ask you this, would it have helped the team had Wayne been in the paint rebounding and trying to give us a post presence, therefore collapsing some of the defense towards the post?

 

[hatvol96]

Compare Chism to any 4 you can think of currently in the NBA. Then, decide if you like the match up. There's your answer.

There are plenty of backup power forwards and centers in the Association that Chism can more than hold his own against.
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[allvol21]

Let me ask you this, would it have helped the team had Wayne been in the paint rebounding and trying to give us a post presence, therefore collapsing some of the defense towards the post?

Like I said in the OP..it is very frustrating to watch him float on the perimeter. Of course it would have helped for him to bang on the boards and try to get some putbacks because there were plenty to be putback. As far as collapsing the defense in the paint I don't think it would have made one bit of difference in this particular game considering we were missing open looks. If were were struggling to find room to get a shot off it would be different.

 

[m37bruno]

Oh but if you ask some people Chism is a Post in the next level and needs to stay down low...hahahaha

CHism has to be able to shot if he wants to make it in the NBA...He is too little to make it as a post...

Now I don't agree with your comment on Woolridge...He can shot the ball he just looks a little timid because he has not got the time he needs to get comfortable. Ok and he is a little uncoordinated...but he can stroke the 3 ball if he is open...and he plays hard when he is in the game...I would like to see his defense improve...

I am more concerned with Tatum and Hopson....When are these guys going to show up on a consistent basis??????

I mean I see flashes from Hopson and then its like the next scene is him getting beat off the dribble or him missing a "HIGH" arking shot...For some to have said he would be a one and done I dont think they saw this coming...

Our guard play is not any better then last year for the exception of Maze knocking down a few more shots...

T.Smith seems to have lost his heart for the game...He is not taking the ball to the basket like he used to and I have not seen him take but maybe a few 3 point shots. I heard he was working on that all SUMMER???? He is our leader and has to step up and make these guys around him better...

Brian Williams has not improved that much from last year either...:cray:

I do like Kenny Hall I think he is going to be a force inside for us...
I will really like when Tobias gets here and we can see Hall,McBee,Tobias,Golden,Jordan...That would be a pretty solid starting line..
Yeah I said "Sweet Tea McBee" I like how he plays..when he gets comfortable in the next year or so he is going to be a player for us...He works hard and plays tough..If he can just work on his defense he will be a better Dane Bradshaw...The Kid will be money from 3 the more he gets comfortable with his role and his team... [/QUOTE ]

The Rockets are using Chuck Hayes who is 6'6" and is a center. Also Atlanta has Josh Smith, he's 6'9". Wayne's height is not a problem.

Oh I am sure that there are guys who might play the position but when Yao Ming is healthy Chuck Hayes is not going to be the post...

And Josh Smith is a freak of Nature with all kinds of Athletic Ability and Can really dribble...Wayne Chism is nothing like Josh Smith...

What I am saying is Wayne might play around the post in the NBA but it will have to be from the 4 position not the 5...That will be the only way he can matchup with someone close to his size or have a slight advantage over someone a little shorter.

 

[BigPapaVol]

My problem with Chism has nothing to do with the 3 ball. It's the mental vacancy rate and the vaginosis that precludes him using his God given size to dominate in a centerless NCAA. He could put pressure on a D that our guards can't. He could make room for Tyler to do the whirling dervish thing and he could play 2 man ball (post or pick n roll) that we don't play today. Some of it is on Chism, some on the coaching.

Why the man doesn't rebound, I have no earthly idea.

 

[PPPpartsp3]

My problem with Chism has nothing to do with the 3 ball. It's the mental vacancy rate and the vaginosis that precludes him using his God given size to dominate in a centerless NCAA. He could put pressure on a D that our guards can't. He could make room for Tyler to do the whirling dervish thing and he could play 2 man ball (post or pick n roll) that we don't play today. Some of it is on Chism, some on the coaching.

Why the man doesn't rebound, I have no earthly idea.

Play like a 4 or 5, or sit the bench. Never will understand it.