Pete Rose

#4
#4
I don't see the big deal if he was betting to win, if he was screwing up to try and lose to win bet then throw him under the bus. Still one of the greats to play the game.
 
#6
#6
It's no different than a player trying to run up his stats to ensure that endorsement from NIKE. He was just making side money with a bookie instead of a corporation.
 
#10
#10
Whatever. He's still lying, after all these years. Tried to play it off on Dan Patrick's show like it's just because he believed in his team. I know I'm assuming, but I feel there's a 99.9% chance I'm correct when I say he bet on them every night where the money was. If he felt his team would lose, he'd bet against his own guys. A gambling addict won't put money down when they know there's a distinct chance they'll lose. Pete's just old and disgruntled that he committed baseball's ultimate offense, and cost himself a spot in the hall for it.
 
#11
#11
milohimself said:
Whatever. He's still lying, after all these years. Tried to play it off on Dan Patrick's show like it's just because he believed in his team. I know I'm assuming, but I feel there's a 99.9% chance I'm correct when I say he bet on them every night where the money was. If he felt his team would lose, he'd bet against his own guys. A gambling addict won't put money down when they know there's a distinct chance they'll lose. Pete's just old and disgruntled that he committed baseball's ultimate offense, and cost himself a spot in the hall for it.
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I think he should still go to the hall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#13
#13
milohimself said:
Whatever. He's still lying, after all these years. Tried to play it off on Dan Patrick's show like it's just because he believed in his team. I know I'm assuming, but I feel there's a 99.9% chance I'm correct when I say he bet on them every night where the money was. If he felt his team would lose, he'd bet against his own guys. A gambling addict won't put money down when they know there's a distinct chance they'll lose. Pete's just old and disgruntled that he committed baseball's ultimate offense, and cost himself a spot in the hall for it.
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Worse than pumping up with roids?
 
#15
#15
Look at it this way:

When a player takes steroids, he's cheating to try and affect the outcome of a game.

When a manager or a group of players bet, they are in a position to directly affect the outcome of a game.

That's why all the steroids stuff right now will still never amount to something like the Black Sox scandal.
 
#18
#18
volmanjr said:
So Rose's "cheating" is worse than Bond's or Sosa's corked bat?
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IMO, yes. I know that cheating is cheating, but there are degrees of it. Just like crime is crime, but murder is worse than theft.

The direct affect is outcome of cheating is games and stats. All the 'roids guys did give themselves an extra edge, but they were not in the same position Rose was to literally win and lose as many games as he chose.
 
#19
#19
fair enough, but I still think he deserves to be in the Hall as much as Bonds or Sosa.
 
#20
#20
As sad a man as I think Rose is, I agree. I think he should be put in the Hall mainly because I think the Baseball Writers of America are so full of themselves that it's pathetic . . .
 
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