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Read the article. We were missing half our starters roughly on both offense AND defense. Negas dont care about facts though...

Offense missing

Both starting tackles on Oline
Best guard Spraggins down bout halftime, best backup interior lineman Karic out too...plus decimated WR corps and Keyton regressing didnt even have a catch. Oh...and even Cooper who is usually the best we have graded out around 50 which is terrible. Probably because he played almost entirely with backups.


Defense

Missing both starting safeties from start of season, our best corner in Hadden, and of course our starting best LB Pili is still gone too. Look at how their backups graded out in the article....Herring and others graded around 30. Thats the lowest I have ever seen UT players do. Turrentine a 3rd string corner graded at 30 and played nearly every snap in the game.

Pretty cool that CJH didn't mention injuries or missing players as the cause for the loss either. All he said after the game was " we are banged up right now, that was a good team we played today." Which him and every other coach on Earth says after they play a decent team. We played with about half our best players saturday. Against a team that is much, much deeper than us anyway since their last 5 recruiting classes were all ranked top 5 with an average of 2nd or 3rd in the country? Their backups are rated higher out of HS than most of our starters. Its only year 3 folks. With the 1st year being extremely hamstrung due to a late coaching search and the resulting class ranked 23rd....much lower than the 2 great classes Coach has put together since.

I am excited for the future as its very bright at UT. We get better classes every year, and will field better teams each year from here on out with Nico at QB and an absolute baller in Jake at QB right behind him. GO VOLS
 
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Read the article. We were missing half our starters roughly on both offense AND defense. Negas dont care about facts though...

Offense missing

Both starting tackles on Oline
Best guard Spraggins down bout halftime, best backup interior lineman Karic out too...plus decimated WR corps and Keyton regressing didnt even have a catch. Oh...and even Cooper who is usually the best we have graded out around 50 which is terrible. Probably because he played almost entirely with backups.


Defense

Missing both starting safeties from start of season, our best corner in Hadden, and of course our starting best LB Pili is still gone too. Look at how their backups graded out in the article....Herring and others graded around 30. Thats the lowest I have ever seen UT players do. Turrentine a 3rd string corner graded at 30 and played nearly every snap in the game.

Pretty cool that CJH didn't mention injuries or missing players as the cause for the loss either. All he said after the game was " we are banged up right now, that was a good team we played today." Which him and every other coach on Earth says after they play a decent team. We played with about half our best players saturday. Against a team that is much, much deeper than us anyway since their last 5 recruiting classes were all ranked top 5 with an average of 2nd or 3rd in the country? Their backups are rated higher out of HS than most of our starters. Its only year 3 folks. With the 1st year being extremely hamstrung due to a late coaching search and the resulting class ranked 23rd....much lower than the 2 great classes Coach has put together since.

I am excited for the future as its very bright at UT. We get better classes every year, and will field better teams each year from here on out with Nico at QB and an absolute baller in Jake at QB right behind him. GO VOLS
I guess it was injuries that made Milton stand there those times like a knot on a log and not look at open receivers.
 
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Which safety have been missing all year? Tank McCullough was designated the starter from the beginning, right? Walker and Tmac missed time but I believe McCullough has been out there every game
 
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Read the article. We were missing half our starters roughly on both offense AND defense. Negas dont care about facts though...

Offense missing

Both starting tackles on Oline
Best guard Spraggins down bout halftime, best backup interior lineman Karic out too...plus decimated WR corps and Keyton regressing didnt even have a catch. Oh...and even Cooper who is usually the best we have graded out around 50 which is terrible. Probably because he played almost entirely with backups.


Defense

Missing both starting safeties from start of season, our best corner in Hadden, and of course our starting best LB Pili is still gone too. Look at how their backups graded out in the article....Herring and others graded around 30. Thats the lowest I have ever seen UT players do. Turrentine a 3rd string corner graded at 30 and played nearly every snap in the game.

Pretty cool that CJH didn't mention injuries or missing players as the cause for the loss either. All he said after the game was " we are banged up right now, that was a good team we played today." Which him and every other coach on Earth says after they play a decent team. We played with about half our best players saturday. Against a team that is much, much deeper than us anyway since their last 5 recruiting classes were all ranked top 5 with an average of 2nd or 3rd in the country? Their backups are rated higher out of HS than most of our starters. Its only year 3 folks. With the 1st year being extremely hamstrung due to a late coaching search and the resulting class ranked 23rd....much lower than the 2 great classes Coach has put together since.

I am excited for the future as its very bright at UT. We get better classes every year, and will field better teams each year from here on out with Nico at QB and an absolute baller in Jake at QB right behind him. GO VOLS
So explain the UF game, Bama second half, Mizzou. Look, you can call it injuries, lack of talent, inexperience...the list of excuses is endless. Regardless, this team has a lot of turtle in it. Losing is one thing, but there have been times/games this season where I question their fight and effort. I don't see leadership. I don't see a well coached team. I don't see a disciplined team. I don't see a physical team. This team has the look of a guy who is going through the motions in the last week on the job before retirement. There's just something wrong, and I'm starting to worry that the issue is more coaches than players. The warning signs are there and red flags are starting to appear.
 
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Read the article. We were missing half our starters roughly on both offense AND defense. Negas dont care about facts though...

Offense missing

Both starting tackles on Oline
Best guard Spraggins down bout halftime, best backup interior lineman Karic out too...plus decimated WR corps and Keyton regressing didnt even have a catch. Oh...and even Cooper who is usually the best we have graded out around 50 which is terrible. Probably because he played almost entirely with backups.


Defense

Missing both starting safeties from start of season, our best corner in Hadden, and of course our starting best LB Pili is still gone too. Look at how their backups graded out in the article....Herring and others graded around 30. Thats the lowest I have ever seen UT players do. Turrentine a 3rd string corner graded at 30 and played nearly every snap in the game.

Pretty cool that CJH didn't mention injuries or missing players as the cause for the loss either. All he said after the game was " we are banged up right now, that was a good team we played today." Which him and every other coach on Earth says after they play a decent team. We played with about half our best players saturday. Against a team that is much, much deeper than us anyway since their last 5 recruiting classes were all ranked top 5 with an average of 2nd or 3rd in the country? Their backups are rated higher out of HS than most of our starters. Its only year 3 folks. With the 1st year being extremely hamstrung due to a late coaching search and the resulting class ranked 23rd....much lower than the 2 great classes Coach has put together since.

I am excited for the future as its very bright at UT. We get better classes every year, and will field better teams each year from here on out with Nico at QB and an absolute baller in Jake at QB right behind him. GO VOLS
Stop it with the facts, ok! The Vols just suck. Fire Josh Heupel. Close Neyland, Blah Blah Blah
 
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I guess it was injuries that made Milton stand there those times like a knot on a log and not look at open receivers.

Yeah, nobody said that....not the article or me. Thats what's known as a "straw man" and its a logical fallacy that amounts to you arguing with yourself, in this case publicly.

Joe clearly doesn't have the brains/instincts to match his physical talent and be great. Thats pretty well established. Coach and Nicos family decided along with Joe and his folks apparently that this was Joes season and Nico would redshirt and prepare for next year. By all accounts the entire team was behind Joe at QB this season as well...at least publicly...so here we are. That has nothing to do with half our team not playing Saturday, but could have made a big difference vs Flarduh and Misery....or not. We will never know though, and I trust our Coach and former Heisman runner up and National Championship winning QB Josh Heupel to make those decisions over random UT fans all day, every day 100% of the time.
 
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Or slow AF recievers running poor routes getting 0 seperation...its not all on 1 player
Nah, Milton has consistently not found guys who are open all year long. It's not all on him, but the QB spot is the most important on the field and he takes the lion's share of the dysfunction. We will be well rid of him when he goes.
 
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Nah, Milton has consistently not found guys who are open all year long. It's not all on him, but the QB spot is the most important on the field and he takes the lion's share of the dysfunction. We will be well rid of him when he goes.
I agree with some off that....as fans we see WR running open all the time..take the player where Joe was scrambling and had a War start breaking away just as his throwing motion underneath...we all see that as an open Wr..when in reality the only reason is because the coverage reacted and started toward the LOS to stop Joe possible scrambling and left the coverage...joe was already starting to throw in the run...we see open WR..reality he was covered pretty well..

Our Wr get 0 seperation, they catch with thier bodies and not thier hands, they dont attack the ball in the air, they have the smallest catch radius I've ever seen and the dont run sharp routes, they round off thier cuts which allows a LBer to keep up with Squirrel
 
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I agree with some off that....as fans we see WR running open all the time..take the player where Joe was scrambling and had a War start breaking away just as his throwing motion underneath...we all see that as an open Wr..when in reality the only reason is because the coverage reacted and started toward the LOS to stop Joe possible scrambling and left the coverage...joe was already starting to throw in the run...we see open WR..reality he was covered pretty well..

Our Wr get 0 seperation, they catch with thier bodies and not thier hands, they dont attack the ball in the air, they have the smallest catch radius I've ever seen and the dont run sharp routes, they round off thier cuts which allows a LBer to keep up with Squirrel
Nah, it's pretty much that Joe is really bad a making reads, and has terrible timing and accuracy. That's the major issue, not this supposed unified regression of multiple proven commodities.
 
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Nah, it's pretty much that Joe is really bad a making reads, and has terrible timing and accuracy. That's the major issue, not this supposed unified regression of multiple proven commodities.
Your right Joe responsible for all the teams ills..smh
 
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I agree with some off that....as fans we see WR running open all the time..take the player where Joe was scrambling and had a War start breaking away just as his throwing motion underneath...we all see that as an open Wr..when in reality the only reason is because the coverage reacted and started toward the LOS to stop Joe possible scrambling and left the coverage...joe was already starting to throw in the run...we see open WR..reality he was covered pretty well..

Our Wr get 0 seperation, they catch with thier bodies and not thier hands, they dont attack the ball in the air, they have the smallest catch radius I've ever seen and the dont run sharp routes, they round off thier cuts which allows a LBer to keep up with Squirrel
And 8 out of 10 SEC QB’s see what the fans see and complete a pass
 
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I agreed but you giving a pass to a entire position group that he is reliant on
Give a full pass? No. But you are trying like heck to make it anything but Joe by blaming the WRs with all your might and handwaving me and others seeing Joe miss open receivers by asserting that it was because the play was already decided and we just didn't know what we were looking. I have to just pretty much shut down that sort of poppycock.
 
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And 8 out of 10 SEC QB’s see the field when they are scrambling.

It’s what separates HS and Jr college QB’s from Major College.
They do things that are really difficult
I think you’re confusing your quarterback statistics with the amount of dentists who recommend Trident.
 
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Hard to believe the teams we play never have injured players and players out due to injury.

And we have a habit of getting a lot of injuries...Something they need to get their medical staff and S&C involved in big-time in the off-season.
Nope. It’s just that UGA can have McConkey and Bowers can be beat up and they have the depth and the stability to overcome it. UGA had Richt hand off a very solid program to Kirby and he’s improved upon it. Heupel hasn’t had that same sort of transition. He followed the stench of CJP and his staff and has basically had to build from the ground up.
 
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Nope. It’s just that UGA can have McConkey and Bowers can be beat up and they have the depth and the stability to overcome it. UGA had Richt hand off a very solid program to Kirby and he’s improved upon it. Heupel hasn’t had that same sort of transition. He followed the stench of CJP and his staff and has basically had to build from the ground up.
We've been hearing the depth issue for a decade...Maybe by 2030 we won't hear it anymore? And I wasn't just talking about UGA.
 
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We've been hearing the depth issue for a decade...Maybe by 2030 we won't hear it anymore? And I wasn't just talking about UGA.
Depth is a problem when you’ve had 4 head coaches in the span of a decade. Couple that w/ the mass exodus following the disaster that was Pruitt and it’s a real issue. We can still be a very good football team and have very good players at key positions, but the line between very good and mediocre is very small.
 
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People can debate Milton until the sun burns out, but the issue nobody is mentioning is how beaten up we are across the board. We had a squad full of backups playing. Two guys in the 30s against the best team in the country is scary
 
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I guess it was injuries that made Milton stand there those times like a knot on a log and not look at open receivers.

You thought the receivers were getting open with any regularity? They werent. If one did get open, Joe was likely to surprised to throw it in time.

Out receivers gave their all, i belueve that. However, when the guy defending you can run faster, jump higher and out muscle you...there aint a whole lot you can do about it. Contrary to what you couch potatos think, athleticism matters greatly in a football game.
 

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