PFF seems low on the vols offense

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Offense (minimum of 17 plays — 20% of offensive plays)
RB Jaylen Wright — 82.1 (28 plays)

QB Joe Milton III — 78.3 (74 plays)

OT Gerald Mincey — 73.5 (39 plays)

WR Squirrel White — 68.8 (39 plays)

OT Jeremiah Crawford — 67.1 (57 plays)

TE Jacob Warren — 65.2 (36 plays)

RG Javontez Spraggins — 64.2 (74 plays)

RB Jabari Small — 63.3 (26 plays)

LT John Campbell Jr. — 61.6 (59 plays)

C Ollie Lane — 60.9 (48 plays)

WR Ramel Keyton — 59.6 (73 plays)

OG Jackson Lampley —59.4 (22 plays)

RT/C Dayne Davis — 59.1 (27 plays)

TE McCallan Castles — 58.1 (45 plays)

RB Dylan Sampson — 56.7 (27 plays)

WR Chas Nimrod — 56.1 (22 plays)

WR Bru McCoy — 56.1 (58 plays)

WR Dont’e Thornton — 54.3 (44 plays)

LG Andrej Karic — 47.1 (60 plays)
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Some of these seem a bit low to me. Especially offensive line grades. Not sure what's going on with that.

Defense was a bit better.

Defensive Grades (minimum of 13 plays — 20% of defensive plays)​

LEO James Pearce Jr. — 87.8 (24 plays)

DE Tyler Baron — 87.2 (26 plays)

LB Aaron Beasley — 82.2 (43 plays)

CB Kamal Hadden — 80.3 (29 plays)

S Jaylen McCollough — 79.1 (44 plays)

LB Elijah Herring — 78.6 (24 plays)

DT Omarr Norman-Lott — 76.4 (21 plays)

LEO Roman Harrison — 73.2 (32 plays)

LB Keenan Pili — 73.0 (29 plays)

DT Daevin Hobbs — 71.5 (24 plays)

S Wesley Walker — 69.9 (45 plays)

CB Warren Burrell — 68.6 (26 plays)

CB Doneiko Slaughter — 66.7 (29 plays)

S Andre Turrentine — 66.0 (20 plays)

STAR Tamarion McDonald — 65.8 (29 plays)

LEO Caleb Herring — 65.5 (13 plays)

DT Omari Thomas — 65.4 (25 plays)

S Will Brooks — 65.4 (20 plays)

STAR Brandon Turniage — 65.1 (27 plays)

LB Arion Carter — 65.0 (18 plays)

DE Tyre West — 63.4 (15 plays)

DE Dominic Bailey — 59.8 (16 plays)

CB Gabe Jeudy-Lally — 55.3 (26 plays)

DT Kurrott Garland — 50.7 (19 plays)
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PFF Grades: Tennessee vs. Virginia | Rocky Top Insider

Check out the individual PFF grades for Tennessee football's season opening win over Virginia Saturday afternoon.
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Well, PFF is hard, objective assessment. Human eyeballs are allowing for this being first game of the season, when gauging our performance.

If Tennessee played this exact game in Week 3, we'd probably agree with it.

Consider this PFF eval a benchmark against which to gauge the rest of the season.
 
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Pff is low on braincells

Here is an article of theirs detailing why Shawn shamburger was a better returning player for Tennessee in 2020 than Trey Smith or Hank t.

247sports.com

PFF makes surprising pick for Tennessee's best returning player

Pro Football Focus has unveiled its best returning player for every FBS team in 2020, and its choice for Tennessee might surprise you.
247sports.com 247sports.com
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Well, PFF is hard, objective assessment. Human eyeballs are allowing for this being first game of the season, when gauging our performance.

If Tennessee played this exact game in Week 3, we'd probably agree with it.

Consider this PFF eval a benchmark against which to gauge the rest of the season.
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The scoreboard is the "hard, objective assessment". At the end of the season, playoff berths and bowl games are based on wins and losses, not some arbitrary "PFF Assessment".

There are so many "assessment" and "predictive" websites out there these days that you can find UT at 6-6, or 11-1. Or any number of numbers in between. Pick your position, and your poison.

I trust PFF like I trust a wet fart. Anyone over 50 knows what I'm talking about.

Go Vols.

Edit: Let me add this. Having lost more VN Pick-em's and other web and work-based football pools over the years than I care to count, I have learned that you can trust Sagarin in the long run. Unfortunately, in a few cases, by the time I trust him I'm too far behind.

Unless, of course, you're willing to pay to improve your odds to win.

Me? No. I'd rather lose on my own.

Go Vols.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
The scoreboard is the "hard, objective assessment". At the end of the season, playoff berths and bowl games are based on wins and losses, not some arbitrary "PFF Assessment".

There are so many "assessment" and "predictive" websites out there these days that you can find UT at 6-6, or 11-1. Or any number of numbers in between. Pick your position, and your poison.

I trust PFF like I trust a wet fart. Anyone over 50 knows what I'm talking about.

Go Vols.

Edit: Let me add this. Having lost more VN Pick-em's and other web and work-based football pools over the years than I care to count, I have learned that you can trust Sagarin in the long run. Unfortunately, in a few cases, by the time I trust him I'm too far behind.

Unless, of course, you're willing to pay to improve your odds to win.

Me? No. I'd rather lose on my own.

Go Vols.
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You do realize that the coaches are going to grade each player the same way? They aren’t going to say, “well the scoreboard said we won. No need to grade our players this game”. It’s a metric for individuals to use to grow.
 
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For those not aware or choose to read past it, this is how the grading scale works.

Each game players are graded on a scale from 1-100. 90-100 represents an elite grade, 85-89 represents an all-conference player, 70-84 is starter quality, 60-69 is backup quality and everything under 60 is replaceable.



PFF Grades: Tennessee vs. Virginia | Rocky Top Insider

Check out the individual PFF grades for Tennessee football's season opening win over Virginia Saturday afternoon.
www.rockytopinsider.com www.rockytopinsider.com
 
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My understanding is that PFF scores every snap a player takes..not just tue ones they record stats on. So lets say 2 olinemen both give up one sack one played 50 snaps one played 40. Everything else being equal the guy that played 50 snaps grades out higher. That is at least my understanding of how their ratings go.
 
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barney said:
Some of these seem a bit low to me. Especially offensive line grades. Not sure what's going on with that.

Defense was a bit better.


PFF Grades: Tennessee vs. Virginia | Rocky Top Insider

Check out the individual PFF grades for Tennessee football's season opening win over Virginia Saturday afternoon.
www.rockytopinsider.com www.rockytopinsider.com
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I think we played very generic offense as did several other high ranked teams who had so-called mismatch games. We only went deep a time or two, and didn’t go to squirrel, Bru, or Thornton, on much other than basic plays. Probably same this week. Florida should be more exciting.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Well, PFF is hard, objective assessment. Human eyeballs are allowing for this being first game of the season, when gauging our performance.

If Tennessee played this exact game in Week 3, we'd probably agree with it.

Consider this PFF eval a benchmark against which to gauge the rest of the season.
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Sorry but those aren’t objective. Not sure what they look at but remember some of Hooker’s best games being under 80.
 
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So Dylan Sampson has 4 TD’s. 1 receiving and 3 rushing. But is rated at a 56.7? This score puts him in the replaceable column. Those 4TD’s don’t play into his rating?
 
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imavolfan said:
So Dylan Sampson has 4 TD’s. 1 receiving and 3 rushing. But is rated at a 56.7? This score puts him in the replaceable column. Those 4TD’s don’t play into his rating?
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maybe they just don't watch the games, or look at the statlines
 
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imavolfan said:
So Dylan Sampson has 4 TD’s. 1 receiving and 3 rushing. But is rated at a 56.7? This score puts him in the replaceable column. Those 4TD’s don’t play into his rating?
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That's the thing about PFF, scoring a TD that any other RB could have done doesn't actually do anything for your PFF rating.

Look at other things than just TDs, like yards after contact & yac per attempt & missed tackles forced:
Wright --- 58yac 4.83yac/a 4MTF
Small ----- 37yac 2.85yac/a 2MTF
Sampson - 22yac 1.69yac/a 1MTF

That said, I did think his runs and receptions were a bit better than Small, who was rated better than him.
 
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