Playoff comparisons - Michigan- TCU - Tennessee

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FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE - A GRAPHIC COMPARISON
MICHIGAN'S SOS 31 is PATHETIC - worse when viewed like this in comparison. The "Michigan did not play anybody with a chance to lose" truth is obvious.

Assuming OSU BEATS MICHIGAN - MICHIGAN WINS VS ILLINOIS & OSU BEATS B1G CHAMPIONSHIP OPPONENT.
TCU wins vs BAYLOR & IOWA STATE but loses to K STATE IN BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP?
UGA beats LSU in the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP
Does TENNESSEE #2 SOS at 11-1 get the spot vs 11-1 MICHIGAN - a team that played the most pathetic 31st SOS in power 5 history.

MICHIGAN SOS RANK 31 VS TENNESSEE RANK 2 SOS - COMPARE RECORDS
MICHIGAN PLAYED 5 TEAMS WITH MORE Ws than Losses and 6 without

Sat, Sep 3 Vs Colorado State 3W 10L W51-7
Sat, Sep 10 Vs Hawaii 2W – 11L W56-10
Sat, Sep 17 Vs UConn 5W-5L W59-0
Sat, Sep 24 Vs Maryland 7W-5L W34-27 ONE TD
Sat, Oct 1 @ Iowa 7W-5L W27-14
Sat, Oct 8 @ Indiana 3W-9L W31-10
Sat, Oct 15 Vs 14 PSU 10W-2L W41-17 only ranked win
Sat, Oct 29 Vs Michigan State 6W-6L W29-7
Sat, Nov 5 @ Rutgers 4W-8L W52-17
Sat, Nov 12 Vs Nebraska 1W-11L W34-3
Sat, Nov 19 vs Illinois 7W-4L now tied with Purdue, Iowa, & Minn. at 4-3 in B1G but will be 4-4 with Michigan loss = no B1G championship game
Sat, Nov 26 @2 Ohio State 11-0
BEST WIN PSU RANKED 14 13 WINS & 49 COMBINED LOSSES teams in red above

TENNESSEE 2 OPPONENTS W/ LOSING RECORDS - 6 TEAMS RANKED 2,3,7,17, 19,20 LOSING TO #2 UGA

Thu, Sep 1 Vs Ball State 7W-5L W59-10
Sat, Sep 10 @ 17 Pittsburgh 8W-4L W34-27
Sat, Sep 17 Vs Akron 2W-9L W63-6
Sat, Sep 24 Vs 20 Florida 8W-4L W38-33
Sat, Oct 8 @ 7 LSU 10-2 W40-13
Sat, Oct 15 Vs 3 Alabama 10-2 W52-49
Sat, Oct 22 Vs UT Martin 7W-4L W65-24
Sat, Oct 29 Vs 19 Kentucky 7W-5L W44-6
Sat, Nov 5 @ 2 Georgia 12-0 L27-13
Sat, Nov 12 Vs Missouri 6W-6L W66-24
Sat, Nov 19 @ South Carolina 6W-6L
Sat, Nov 26@ Vanderbilt 4W-8L

TCU RANK 18 SOS
If TCU loses to K STATE in the Big 12 Championship the #18 SOS should not matter
TCU won by 10 vs K STATE - maybe they don't win again. 4 wins by one TD or less
09/02 Colorado 1-11 W 38-13
09/10 Tarleton State 5-5 W 59-17
09/24 S Methodist 6-6 W 42-34 6points
10/01 Oklahoma 5-7 W 55-24
10/08 Kansas 6-6 W 38-31 7points
10/15 Oklahoma St 9-3 W 43-40 3points
10/22 Kansas St 9-3 W 38-28
10/29 W Virginia 4-8 W 41-31
11/05 Texas Tech 6-6 W 34-24
11/12 Texas 7-5 W 17-10 7 points
11/19 @Baylor 7-5 12:00 pm
11/26 Iowa State 4-8 12:00 pm

UGA #1 OSU #2 TENN #3 & TCU, MICH, USC OR CLEMSON #4 predicted CFP order
 
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I guess more important would be our SOS and Michigan's SOS after the next 2 games. Ours will surely drop and theirs will obviously improve but how much?
 
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I look at it this way, let any of the teams that are supposed to be our competition for a spot on the final 4 play our schedule, PLAY BAMA, LSU at LSU and UGA at UGA and tell me you think they won't have 3 Losses.
 
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Our ooc opponents aren't great but Pitt would be favored against at least 9 of Michigans opponents.
Ball St and Akron would have been favored against all their ooc opponents. And the game against UTM was a way to boost a UT schools athletic budget.
 
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I agree with everything said here about SOS and I think we would beat Michigan on a neutral field.

The only thing Michigan has going for it, unlike TCU or us, they really haven’t had any close games and because of their weak schedule it is hard to gauge how good or overrated they are. Even in their game against Maryland, I think they were a hair the whole 2nd half. I would like to see a replay of that game since I really don’t know much about it. PS Corum had 2 touchdowns in the game against Maryland and almost 250 yards rushing.

It would be awesome to play Michigan and have Milton come in and throw the winning touchdown on a 60 yard throw.

I did read a little in a Michigan and Ohio State forums. The Ohio State fans seem to think they don’t belong in the playoffs if they can’t beat Michigan at home. The Michigan fans believe as long as it is a close game, then they should be in the playoffs.
 
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If Tennessee makes the playoffs I believe they would match up with Ga to eliminate the possibility of an all SEC championship game.
1/4 or 2/3
 
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If Michigan loses and everyone else wins out, I think it will be 1GA vs 4UT then 2OSU vs 3TCU

The only other team that can come close is USC. They have a little bit tougher road than TCU.
 
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Just give it a few weeks and all this sorts itself out. If Tennessee wins out, they are in. All mental gymnastics are not needed. Win out and the odds are in Tennessee's favor all day.
 
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Put aside results on the field for a minute, and strength of schedule, and all that. If there’s an element of theater to all this beyond the computer models, then there’s a clearly desirable result. You give one of Stroud or Hooker the Heisman, and then you put OSU and Tennessee at 2 and 3 and let them settle it.
 
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This is what the committee is supposed to be evaluating and looking at. They did that for week 1, but then caved to media pressure last week. We will see what happens in the coming weeks.
 
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Zues1 said:
If Tennessee makes the playoffs I believe they would match up with Ga to eliminate the possibility of an all SEC championship game.
1/4 or 2/3
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No, the playoff committee likes to spread out the conference teams and avoid early rematches. See last year with bama - uga.
 
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Strength of Thread (SOT): 8.7


aurabass said:
FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE - A GRAPHIC COMPARISON
MICHIGAN'S SOS 31 is PATHETIC - worse when viewed like this in comparison. The "Michigan did not play anybody with a chance to lose" truth is obvious.

Assuming OSU BEATS MICHIGAN - MICHIGAN WINS VS ILLINOIS & OSU BEATS B1G CHAMPIONSHIP OPPONENT.
TCU wins vs BAYLOR & IOWA STATE but loses to K STATE IN BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP?
UGA beats LSU in the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP
Does TENNESSEE #2 SOS at 11-1 get the spot vs 11-1 MICHIGAN - a team that played the most pathetic 31st SOS in power 5 history.

MICHIGAN SOS RANK 31 VS TENNESSEE RANK 2 SOS - COMPARE RECORDS
MICHIGAN PLAYED 5 TEAMS WITH MORE Ws than Losses and 6 without

Sat, Sep 3 Vs Colorado State 3W 10L W51-7
Sat, Sep 10 Vs Hawaii 2W – 11L W56-10
Sat, Sep 17 Vs UConn 5W-5L W59-0
Sat, Sep 24 Vs Maryland 7W-5L W34-27 ONE TD
Sat, Oct 1 @ Iowa 7W-5L W27-14
Sat, Oct 8 @ Indiana 3W-9L W31-10
Sat, Oct 15 Vs 14 PSU 10W-2L W41-17 only ranked win
Sat, Oct 29 Vs Michigan State 6W-6L W29-7
Sat, Nov 5 @ Rutgers 4W-8L W52-17
Sat, Nov 12 Vs Nebraska 1W-11L W34-3
Sat, Nov 19 vs Illinois 7W-4L now tied with Purdue, Iowa, & Minn. at 4-3 in B1G but will be 4-4 with Michigan loss = no B1G championship game
Sat, Nov 26 @2 Ohio State 11-0
BEST WIN PSU RANKED 14 13 WINS & 49 COMBINED LOSSES teams in red above

TENNESSEE 2 OPPONENTS W/ LOSING RECORDS - 6 TEAMS RANKED 2,3,7,17, 19,20 LOSING TO #2 UGA

Thu, Sep 1 Vs Ball State 7W-5L W59-10
Sat, Sep 10 @ 17 Pittsburgh 8W-4L W34-27
Sat, Sep 17 Vs Akron 2W-9L W63-6
Sat, Sep 24 Vs 20 Florida 8W-4L W38-33
Sat, Oct 8 @ 7 LSU 10-2 W40-13
Sat, Oct 15 Vs 3 Alabama 10-2 W52-49
Sat, Oct 22 Vs UT Martin 7W-4L W65-24
Sat, Oct 29 Vs 19 Kentucky 7W-5L W44-6
Sat, Nov 5 @ 2 Georgia 12-0 L27-13
Sat, Nov 12 Vs Missouri 6W-6L W66-24
Sat, Nov 19 @ South Carolina 6W-6L
Sat, Nov 26@ Vanderbilt 4W-8L

TCU RANK 18 SOS
If TCU loses to K STATE in the Big 12 Championship the #18 SOS should not matter
TCU won by 10 vs K STATE - maybe they don't win again. 4 wins by one TD or less
09/02 Colorado 1-11 W 38-13
09/10 Tarleton State 5-5 W 59-17
09/24 S Methodist 6-6 W 42-34 6points
10/01 Oklahoma 5-7 W 55-24
10/08 Kansas 6-6 W 38-31 7points
10/15 Oklahoma St 9-3 W 43-40 3points
10/22 Kansas St 9-3 W 38-28
10/29 W Virginia 4-8 W 41-31
11/05 Texas Tech 6-6 W 34-24
11/12 Texas 7-5 W 17-10 7 points
11/19 @Baylor 7-5 12:00 pm
11/26 Iowa State 4-8 12:00 pm

UGA #1 OSU #2 TENN #3 & TCU, MICH, USC OR CLEMSON #4 predicted CFP order
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fossilfiction said:
Just give it a few weeks and all this sorts itself out. If Tennessee wins out, they are in. All mental gymnastics are not needed. Win out and the odds are in Tennessee's favor all day.
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100 percent agree with this. It will play out however it does. The only thing Tennessee can do is focus on Tennessee.
 
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I'd like a shot at playing TCU.


Personal reasons., my old LT in the Army is a Horn Frog grad and I would love nothing more than to hit him up and chuckle.
 
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aurabass said:
FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE - A GRAPHIC COMPARISON
MICHIGAN'S SOS 31 is PATHETIC - worse when viewed like this in comparison. The "Michigan did not play anybody with a chance to lose" truth is obvious.

Assuming OSU BEATS MICHIGAN - MICHIGAN WINS VS ILLINOIS & OSU BEATS B1G CHAMPIONSHIP OPPONENT.
TCU wins vs BAYLOR & IOWA STATE but loses to K STATE IN BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP?
UGA beats LSU in the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP
Does TENNESSEE #2 SOS at 11-1 get the spot vs 11-1 MICHIGAN - a team that played the most pathetic 31st SOS in power 5 history.

MICHIGAN SOS RANK 31 VS TENNESSEE RANK 2 SOS - COMPARE RECORDS
MICHIGAN PLAYED 5 TEAMS WITH MORE Ws than Losses and 6 without

Sat, Sep 3 Vs Colorado State 3W 10L W51-7
Sat, Sep 10 Vs Hawaii 2W – 11L W56-10
Sat, Sep 17 Vs UConn 5W-5L W59-0
Sat, Sep 24 Vs Maryland 7W-5L W34-27 ONE TD
Sat, Oct 1 @ Iowa 7W-5L W27-14
Sat, Oct 8 @ Indiana 3W-9L W31-10
Sat, Oct 15 Vs 14 PSU 10W-2L W41-17 only ranked win
Sat, Oct 29 Vs Michigan State 6W-6L W29-7
Sat, Nov 5 @ Rutgers 4W-8L W52-17
Sat, Nov 12 Vs Nebraska 1W-11L W34-3
Sat, Nov 19 vs Illinois 7W-4L now tied with Purdue, Iowa, & Minn. at 4-3 in B1G but will be 4-4 with Michigan loss = no B1G championship game
Sat, Nov 26 @2 Ohio State 11-0
BEST WIN PSU RANKED 14 13 WINS & 49 COMBINED LOSSES teams in red above

TENNESSEE 2 OPPONENTS W/ LOSING RECORDS - 6 TEAMS RANKED 2,3,7,17, 19,20 LOSING TO #2 UGA

Thu, Sep 1 Vs Ball State 7W-5L W59-10
Sat, Sep 10 @ 17 Pittsburgh 8W-4L W34-27
Sat, Sep 17 Vs Akron 2W-9L W63-6
Sat, Sep 24 Vs 20 Florida 8W-4L W38-33
Sat, Oct 8 @ 7 LSU 10-2 W40-13
Sat, Oct 15 Vs 3 Alabama 10-2 W52-49
Sat, Oct 22 Vs UT Martin 7W-4L W65-24
Sat, Oct 29 Vs 19 Kentucky 7W-5L W44-6
Sat, Nov 5 @ 2 Georgia 12-0 L27-13
Sat, Nov 12 Vs Missouri 6W-6L W66-24
Sat, Nov 19 @ South Carolina 6W-6L
Sat, Nov 26@ Vanderbilt 4W-8L

TCU RANK 18 SOS
If TCU loses to K STATE in the Big 12 Championship the #18 SOS should not matter
TCU won by 10 vs K STATE - maybe they don't win again. 4 wins by one TD or less
09/02 Colorado 1-11 W 38-13
09/10 Tarleton State 5-5 W 59-17
09/24 S Methodist 6-6 W 42-34 6points
10/01 Oklahoma 5-7 W 55-24
10/08 Kansas 6-6 W 38-31 7points
10/15 Oklahoma St 9-3 W 43-40 3points
10/22 Kansas St 9-3 W 38-28
10/29 W Virginia 4-8 W 41-31
11/05 Texas Tech 6-6 W 34-24
11/12 Texas 7-5 W 17-10 7 points
11/19 @Baylor 7-5 12:00 pm
11/26 Iowa State 4-8 12:00 pm

UGA #1 OSU #2 TENN #3 & TCU, MICH, USC OR CLEMSON #4 predicted CFP order
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I agree with that order. I want Dawgs in finals, not semi-finals

Not sure if committee will allow all-SEC final, but a semi-final with Stroud vs HH would be a TV bonanza.
 
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The source was trolling but another fear is perhaps a 12-1 Clemson getting in over Tennessee. I know their SOS is trash and they looked horrible against Notre Dame but the whole "Conference Championship" thing is going against us.
 
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volbound1700 said:
The source was trolling but another fear is perhaps a 12-1 Clemson getting in over Tennessee. I know their SOS is trash and they looked horrible against Notre Dame but the whole "Conference Championship" thing is going against us.
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No good wins and a worse loss. Clemson is done
 
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aurabass said:
FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE - A GRAPHIC COMPARISON
MICHIGAN'S SOS 31 is PATHETIC - worse when viewed like this in comparison. The "Michigan did not play anybody with a chance to lose" truth is obvious.

Assuming OSU BEATS MICHIGAN - MICHIGAN WINS VS ILLINOIS & OSU BEATS B1G CHAMPIONSHIP OPPONENT.
TCU wins vs BAYLOR & IOWA STATE but loses to K STATE IN BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP?
UGA beats LSU in the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP
Does TENNESSEE #2 SOS at 11-1 get the spot vs 11-1 MICHIGAN - a team that played the most pathetic 31st SOS in power 5 history.

MICHIGAN SOS RANK 31 VS TENNESSEE RANK 2 SOS - COMPARE RECORDS
MICHIGAN PLAYED 5 TEAMS WITH MORE Ws than Losses and 6 without

Sat, Sep 3 Vs Colorado State 3W 10L W51-7
Sat, Sep 10 Vs Hawaii 2W – 11L W56-10
Sat, Sep 17 Vs UConn 5W-5L W59-0
Sat, Sep 24 Vs Maryland 7W-5L W34-27 ONE TD
Sat, Oct 1 @ Iowa 7W-5L W27-14
Sat, Oct 8 @ Indiana 3W-9L W31-10
Sat, Oct 15 Vs 14 PSU 10W-2L W41-17 only ranked win
Sat, Oct 29 Vs Michigan State 6W-6L W29-7
Sat, Nov 5 @ Rutgers 4W-8L W52-17
Sat, Nov 12 Vs Nebraska 1W-11L W34-3
Sat, Nov 19 vs Illinois 7W-4L now tied with Purdue, Iowa, & Minn. at 4-3 in B1G but will be 4-4 with Michigan loss = no B1G championship game
Sat, Nov 26 @2 Ohio State 11-0
BEST WIN PSU RANKED 14 13 WINS & 49 COMBINED LOSSES teams in red above

TENNESSEE 2 OPPONENTS W/ LOSING RECORDS - 6 TEAMS RANKED 2,3,7,17, 19,20 LOSING TO #2 UGA

Thu, Sep 1 Vs Ball State 7W-5L W59-10
Sat, Sep 10 @ 17 Pittsburgh 8W-4L W34-27
Sat, Sep 17 Vs Akron 2W-9L W63-6
Sat, Sep 24 Vs 20 Florida 8W-4L W38-33
Sat, Oct 8 @ 7 LSU 10-2 W40-13
Sat, Oct 15 Vs 3 Alabama 10-2 W52-49
Sat, Oct 22 Vs UT Martin 7W-4L W65-24
Sat, Oct 29 Vs 19 Kentucky 7W-5L W44-6
Sat, Nov 5 @ 2 Georgia 12-0 L27-13
Sat, Nov 12 Vs Missouri 6W-6L W66-24
Sat, Nov 19 @ South Carolina 6W-6L
Sat, Nov 26@ Vanderbilt 4W-8L

TCU RANK 18 SOS
If TCU loses to K STATE in the Big 12 Championship the #18 SOS should not matter
TCU won by 10 vs K STATE - maybe they don't win again. 4 wins by one TD or less
09/02 Colorado 1-11 W 38-13
09/10 Tarleton State 5-5 W 59-17
09/24 S Methodist 6-6 W 42-34 6points
10/01 Oklahoma 5-7 W 55-24
10/08 Kansas 6-6 W 38-31 7points
10/15 Oklahoma St 9-3 W 43-40 3points
10/22 Kansas St 9-3 W 38-28
10/29 W Virginia 4-8 W 41-31
11/05 Texas Tech 6-6 W 34-24
11/12 Texas 7-5 W 17-10 7 points
11/19 @Baylor 7-5 12:00 pm
11/26 Iowa State 4-8 12:00 pm

UGA #1 OSU #2 TENN #3 & TCU, MICH, USC OR CLEMSON #4 predicted CFP order
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Even though it’s true that TCU won by 10 to K-State, that score is deceiving. TCU was down 18 in the 1st half. TCU needed K-State 1st and 2nd string QB’s to get hurt. K-State was on there 3rd string QB and couldn’t move the ball. If Martinez or Howard don’t get hurt TCU losses and losses big.
 
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volbound1700 said:
The source was trolling but another fear is perhaps a 12-1 Clemson getting in over Tennessee. I know their SOS is trash and they looked horrible against Notre Dame but the whole "Conference Championship" thing is going against us.
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This is why the SEC needs to get rid of Divisions. It should be the Top 2 teams every year playing for conference championship. It’s crazy that LSU is the 3rd best team in the conference but yet playing for the SEC championship.
 
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IN CASE OF A MICHIGAN WIN OVER tOSU here is the OSU record for comparison at #8 SOS

T OHIO STATE UNIV RANK 8 SOS TOSU at least played ND as one decent OOC game
The same dismal B1G conference foes 4 with winning records ND and PSU as 2 ranked foes
The best of the B1G outside of PSU were avoided Purdue 7-3, Illinois 7-3, and Minnesota 7-3
Until one will play in the B1G Championship

09/03 Notre Dame 7W-3L W 21-10
09/10 Arkansas St 3W-7L W 45-12
09/17 Toledo 7W-3L W 77-21
09/24 Wisconsin 5W-5L W 52-21
10/01 Rutgers 4W-6L W 49-10
10/08 Michigan St 5W-5L W 49-20
10/22 Iowa 6W-4L W 54-10
10/29 Penn State #14 RANK 8W-2L W 44-31
11/05 Northwestern 1W-9L W 21-7
11/12 Indiana 2W-7L W 56-14

11/19 Maryland 6-4 3:30 pm
11/26 Michigan 12:00 pm
* losing records in RED
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
Even though it’s true that TCU won by 10 to K-State, that score is deceiving. TCU was down 18 in the 1st half. TCU needed K-State 1st and 2nd string QB’s to get hurt. K-State was on there 3rd string QB and couldn’t move the ball. If Martinez or Howard don’t get hurt TCU losses and losses big.
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Good points - TCU has 3 wins by one TD or less and 3 by 10 points. I think a healthy K State will take them out with a do over in the Big 12 Championship
 
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