Points Error for Dale,Jr. at Daytona

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rbroyles

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Apparently an error was made by NASCAR.com when they posted Dale,Jr's points for Daytona. The original listing showed him with 84 points, and that is what I posted here (copy & paste). Now it has come to my attention Dale, Jr received 87 points, so all entrants who had him as a pick have had three points added to their Daytona score. In no case did it change the order. Those whose Daytona score was higher than California have had their overall score changed, and it did change the order of 45-47.

Thanks to RockyTop10EC for bringing this and other errors to my attention. The other change was that wfine81's & RockyTop's Daytona scores were incorrect.

I apologize for these errors, although the Dale, Jr score was fault of NASCAR.com.

rbroyles
 
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speaking of Dale Jr., talk a bout a make-or-break race. Vegas is key for Jr. to get this thing turned around. I read somewhere that if a driver is outside the top 25 after 3 races, his chances for the chase are nill. They are going of data from last 10 years. pretty interesting stuff.
 
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Gentleman Jack said:
speaking of Dale Jr., talk a bout a make-or-break race. Vegas is key for Jr. to get this thing turned around. I read somewhere that if a driver is outside the top 25 after 3 races, his chances for the chase are nill. They are going of data from last 10 years. pretty interesting stuff.
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I would like to see that if you can find it again.
 
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Gentleman Jack said:
speaking of Dale Jr., talk a bout a make-or-break race. Vegas is key for Jr. to get this thing turned around. I read somewhere that if a driver is outside the top 25 after 3 races, his chances for the chase are nill. They are going of data from last 10 years. pretty interesting stuff.
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That's probably accurate for the most part since a lot of the drivers and teams outside the top 25 at this point are going to end up there anyway

Back in 2003, Dale Jr. had bad finishes at Daytona and Rockingham to start the season, but still finished third in the points even without the Chase. The points are so tight early in the season that all it would take is a couple decent finishes to jump right back into the top dozen or so.

It'd be more cause for concern if the cars had ran poorly in the first two races, but that's not the case for the #88 team. Jr. himself did all he could and then some to ruin what would have likely been a top five finish, and he was running in the top 15 when the engine broke at California. Eliminate the mistakes and a bad batch of parts and he'd be in the top 10 or so in the points right now.
 
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I know, but I'm just looking at the performance of the cars in the races, and it applies to anyone. You'd be more worried if they were running and finishing in the back every race instead of running OK before something happens.
 
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rbroyles said:
I would like to see that if you can find it again.
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I can not for the life of me remember where I read it. Someone else was asking me about it just the other day. It basically took data from several years and if you weren't within so many points of the top 10 after 5 races, your chances of finishing in the top ten were very slim. However it is pretty jumbled in the standings with Waltrip even in the top 10. Here is a good article on where folks are now and how it could all change quickly:
Terry Blount: Little guys making noise early - ESPN

Enjoy the race on Sunday!
 
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Gentleman Jack said:
I can not for the life of me remember where I read it. Someone else was asking me about it just the other day. It basically took data from several years and if you weren't within so many points of the top 10 after 5 races, your chances of finishing in the top ten were very slim. However it is pretty jumbled in the standings with Waltrip even in the top 10. Here is a good article on where folks are now and how it could all change quickly:
Terry Blount: Little guys making noise early - ESPN

Enjoy the race on Sunday!
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Exactly. That's the other side of it. If you're able to stay out of trouble at Daytona and finish around 15th or 20th in the second race, you'll be sitting pretty good in the points.

With that said, I don't think anyone believes that guys like Waltrip, Sadler, and Reutimann are going to remain near the top of the standings.
 
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i think Reutimann is a solid driver. i honestly would not be surprised if he found victory lane before the year was over.

Sadler knows what it takes to make the Chase. of course it's early and i'm not trying to get ahead of myself, but Dodge looks like it may have found something with the new nose. Penske has the new power plant as well.
 
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I agree about Reutimannn, but I'm not as optimistic about Sadler. I give Waltriod little chance of being in the top 20. I would not mind seeing the Dodges be more competitive. I'm not for Dodge, just like to see more teams win.
 
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I get the feeling that early on we are going to see alot of Hendrick, Roush, and Kyle Busch at t he front.(I think it has alot to do with the no testing policy.) Once some of the other teams get some more races under their belt hopefully we'll see the rest of the field draw a little closer. My dad is a truck driver and goes out to Texas on a weekly basis. He called me several times and told me he seen Roush, Hendrick, and Gibbs haulers headed towrds Texas when he was on his way back. I wasn't sure where they would be going to test. Then I read about a 2 mile track similar to Mich. that is there that had been having some work done to it. I would assume some of the bigger teams were probably going there to run their cars. Haven't heard anything saying they did though.
 
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jhen713 said:
I get the feeling that early on we are going to see alot of Hendrick, Roush, and Kyle Busch at t he front.
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i think it may be the opposite. sure, we can expect to see the usual suspects in victory lane, but i think the top 15 may look a little different.

that's my hope anyway. i'd love to see some competition in the field this year.
 
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doozer said:
i think it may be the opposite. sure, we can expect to see the usual suspects in victory lane, but i think the top 15 may look a little different.

that's my hope anyway. i'd love to see some competition in the field this year.
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I hope you are right. I've always liked to see the underdogs do well. I just think the no testing hurt the small teams and all the teams that made driver/crew chief changes. They are having to learn on the job. I would love to see the top 15 mixed up some. Last year each of the 4 big owners had 3 cars in the chase. I just don't think that is good for the sport year in and year out.
 
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jhen713 said:
I get the feeling that early on we are going to see alot of Hendrick, Roush, and Kyle Busch at t he front.(I think it has alot to do with the no testing policy.) Once some of the other teams get some more races under their belt hopefully we'll see the rest of the field draw a little closer. My dad is a truck driver and goes out to Texas on a weekly basis. He called me several times and told me he seen Roush, Hendrick, and Gibbs haulers headed towrds Texas when he was on his way back. I wasn't sure where they would be going to test. Then I read about a 2 mile track similar to Mich. that is there that had been having some work done to it. I would assume some of the bigger teams were probably going there to run their cars. Haven't heard anything saying they did though.
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That track has been in Texas for many years, and is used primarily for tire testing as I believe it belongs to Goodyear.
 
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rbroyles said:
Apparently an error was made by NASCAR.com when they posted Dale,Jr's points for Daytona. The original listing showed him with 84 points, and that is what I posted here (copy & paste). Now it has come to my attention Dale, Jr received 87 points, so all entrants who had him as a pick have had three points added to their Daytona score. In no case did it change the order. Those whose Daytona score was higher than California have had their overall score changed, and it did change the order of 45-47.

Thanks to RockyTop10EC for bringing this and other errors to my attention. The other change was that wfine81's & RockyTop's Daytona scores were incorrect.

I apologize for these errors, although the Dale, Jr score was fault of NASCAR.com.

rbroyles
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