Pollution......we’re all going to die.

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And no I’m not joking.
I think pollution....specifically plastics are going to be a global disaster soon if we don’t get serious about it quickly.
I had the radio going at work the other day, and heard a news blurb about "microplastic" contamination found in ocean water sampled in "formerly pristine waters" of Monterrey Bay (if I remember correctly); that went on to say that, based on this particular finding, the extent of waste plastics polluting the world's oceans could be much worse than was previously believed to be the case. I agree with you, and see this as a more immediate threat to the ecosphere than climate change. Shipping so much of our "recyclable" plastic waste overseas for "recycling" in China, the Philippines, Vietnam etc. is probably not the best way to minimize how much goes into the oceans if reports about how these countries are just dumping a lot of that plastic are true.
 
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I posted this in another thread today & thought I'd bring it here.

World Oceans Day: 7 startling facts about the crisis facing our oceans - CNN

I saw another article yesterday somewhere about all the plastic in the ocean & it said that it's bigger than two Texas size states.....but can't locate the link.

EDIT: The 2nd linked article I said I couldn't find is the one Slice posted above in post #1.
 
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I had the radio going at work the other day, and heard a news blurb about "microplastic" contamination found in ocean water sampled in "formerly pristine waters" of Monterrey Bay (if I remember correctly); that went on to say that, based on this particular finding, the extent of waste plastics polluting the world's oceans could be much worse than was previously believed to be the case. I agree with you, and see this as a more immediate threat to the ecosphere than climate change. Shipping so much of our "recyclable" plastic waste overseas for "recycling" in China, the Philippines, Vietnam etc. is probably not the best way to minimize how much goes into the oceans if reports about how these countries are just dumping a lot of that plastic are true.
They’re finding the micro plastics in local water supplies as well. I imagine the damage is done and there is no reversing course.
 
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They’re finding the micro plastics in local water supplies as well. I imagine the damage is done and there is no reversing course.
I hadn’t heard that. Filtering the water may may it fit for human use but birds, fish, whales etc have no protection. No way to take it out of the oceans efficiently once it has degraded to micro particles.
 
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We certainly need to do our part in helping curb the coming disaster. However, we are almost a drop in the bucket...

https://www.earthday.org/2018/04/06/top-20-countries-ranked-by-mass-of-mismanaged-plastic-waste/

Things like this are why the Paris Agreement was so idiotic for the United States. Our economy suffers while people like China were free to continue doing whatever they wanted to do in regards to global pollution.

Regardless, we'll need to start somewhere and our own recycling efforts will be helpful.
 
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We certainly need to do our part in helping curb the coming disaster. However, we are almost a drop in the bucket...

https://www.earthday.org/2018/04/06/top-20-countries-ranked-by-mass-of-mismanaged-plastic-waste/

Things like this are why the Paris Agreement was so idiotic for the United States. Our economy suffers while people like China were free to continue doing whatever they wanted to do in regards to global pollution.

Regardless, we'll need to start somewhere and our own recycling efforts will be helpful.

Yup
As I said somewhere else.
We need to make make everyone who imports here operate to our standards.

Not that we’re perfect
 
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It seems to me that years ago, we did pretty well without plastic everything. I was raised in the day of paper grocery bags, glass soft drink bottles that we paid a deposit for and returned, drank water from the faucet instead of a plastic bottle, used paper straws and cups, not styrofoam, etc. We washed and reused silverware instead of plastic utensils. Soft drinks and beer were in bottles in cardboard cartons. Corporate America changed us to plastic.
 
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It seems to me that years ago, we did pretty well without plastic everything. I was raised in the day of paper grocery bags, glass soft drink bottles that we paid a deposit for and returned, drank water from the faucet instead of a plastic bottle, used paper straws and cups, not styrofoam, etc. We washed and reused silverware instead of plastic utensils. Soft drinks and beer were in bottles in cardboard cartons. Corporate America changed us to plastic.
But the trees. You gotta think about the trees. Without trees we lose 3% of our oxygen
 
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This whole thing has made depressed as hell, where I should be mad at myself for things I could have done better.

Is there anyone on here that doesn't want to do better? I'm just glad it's something that can be agreed upon. It's a Big F'kn problem.
 
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Post that link on the plastic to oil converting machine again. That was intriguing. I wonder what residuals are left in the combustion chamber or if it’s all consumed
I'm sure that depends on which plastics are being converted
 
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It seems to me that years ago, we did pretty well without plastic everything. I was raised in the day of paper grocery bags, glass soft drink bottles that we paid a deposit for and returned, drank water from the faucet instead of a plastic bottle, used paper straws and cups, not styrofoam, etc. We washed and reused silverware instead of plastic utensils. Soft drinks and beer were in bottles in cardboard cartons. Corporate America changed us to plastic.
Yes and everything still worked just fine then.
 
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It seems to me that years ago, we did pretty well without plastic everything. I was raised in the day of paper grocery bags, glass soft drink bottles that we paid a deposit for and returned, drank water from the faucet instead of a plastic bottle, used paper straws and cups, not styrofoam, etc. We washed and reused silverware instead of plastic utensils. Soft drinks and beer were in bottles in cardboard cartons. Corporate America changed us to plastic.

I can't help but remember in the movie "The Graduate" with Dustin Hoffman..... In the first couple of minutes into the film, Ben (his character) was in the swimming pool and a business friend of his dad was talking to him about what field he should go into to make a good career & a lot of money......and he told him "Plastics.....go into plastics because it's going to be really big one day". Sadly, someone in the audience took that piece of advice & ran with it.
 
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