Possible Positive on Pearl and the Letter...

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I have thought a little about the future. Let's assume a few things. Hammy stays, keeps Pearl (and then we are guaranteed to get hammered) and he is suspended another yr. As that plays out, our recruiting will go down to being done by the current staff, not Pearl directly. Given this, it might be a blessing in disguise. As I see it, our big issue of recent is that Pearl has been attempting to recruit the "blue chips". This HAS NOT GONE WELL on many fronts. The players Pearl used to recruit and win with were recruited by the players recruited more by the staff he has. The "40 minutes of Hell" we saw the first few yrs were awesome to watch. I think we could revamp our recruiting as a result and just go for the players that fit his system. We really need more of the players, not the athletes we have been going for. I could see us getting back to real players- shooting guards, defensive players, and players that want to be here and defy the odds, vs player that are "owed" playing time. We need time to regroup... I think we got too far ahead of the curve and some of that led to the issues with the players we have and the players we recruited. What do you think?
 
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Yeah, recruit players that aren't wanted by elite teams and then we can return to our winning ways. It's a good plan, especially since no elite players will want to come to UT now anyway. Of course, you are assuming that the staff will not receive any suspension for providing false information to the NCAA.
 
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Thing is, we will still be a strong program, but seeking player that fit the system instead of getting caught in the hoopla. We will still get some of those athletes, but not as many for sure.
 
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I'll be honest, I'm not really sure I know what our system is anymore.
 
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I agree that one of the major problems is that a number of the players recruited by Pearl don't fit the system. Another is that we haven't had a 3 point shooter since Loften and JaJuan that could spread the field. You're right, it's not just about talent, it's about having the right pieces. Right now, we don't have a 3 point shooter, and we don't have a true point. Those are both major problems. I also miss the 40 minutes of hell, but Pearl has shown that he can win in other ways. He is great at coaching mediocre players up, but he hasn't shown that he can go to the next level with elite players.
 
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JZVOL said:
We also have no low-post scoring.
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Brian Williams gets quite a bit out of his ability, and that's pretty much the only aspect of his game that he hasn't improved. Considering how strong he is, he should be a better low post player.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Brian Williams gets quite a bit out of his ability, and that's pretty much the only aspect of his game that he hasn't improved. Considering how strong he is, he should be a better low post player.
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Could be that the refs whistle him if he touches the defender/ballhandler almost regardless of reality. Not making excuses but he gets screwed by the refs more than their wives
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tenmanjonez said:
Could be that the refs whistle him if he touches the defender/ballhandler almost regardless of reality. Not making excuses but he gets screwed by the refs more than their wives
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That has nothing to do with his low post offensive game.
 
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tenmanjonez said:
Could be that the refs whistle him if he touches the defender/ballhandler almost regardless of reality. Not making excuses but he gets screwed by the refs more than their wives
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The refs make him miss 2 foot jumpers? And do they constantly make him bring the ball down thus taking away any height advantage he had?
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Let's face the fact that we have no post offensive game for this team. Combine that with terrible outside shooting and you have a team that struggles offensively. Of course not running any half-court offense doesn't help either.
 
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I will give Hopson credit as it looks like he's turned a corner as far as his aggressiveness on offense.
 
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LawVol13 said:
That has nothing to do with his low post offensive game.
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I wonder what he practiced on in Cali. He has no left hand, no pump, no up and under, no jump hook. Just a rt hand toss off the square, which he misses often. That's on the coaches and BW.
 
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BWilliams problem is he has no legs. He can't jump and when he goes up to shoot instead of getting his body into the defender he fades away in fear of the blocked shot. I still think he's a very usable ball player. He defends well but our guards make him look bad a lot as he switches and gets beat by his man because of his help defense. Refs do abuse him also but if he didn't whine and hold his hands up all the time. He might get a few more calls.
 
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Eh, not really, but I was more piggy backing on your statement, and just adding that the refs don't help his lack of agressiveness. Now that I read my post, it sounds VERY arguementative of your original post, but that's not how It was meant to be construed. It was in agreement with yours, with kind of a disappointed shake of the head to reality as well, my mistake :hi:

LawVol13 said:
That has nothing to do with his low post offensive game.
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BasketvolsFan said:
Yeah, recruit players that aren't wanted by elite teams and then we can return to our winning ways. It's a good plan, especially since no elite players will want to come to UT now anyway. Of course, you are assuming that the staff will not receive any suspension for providing false information to the NCAA.
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hahahahaha. Great post and 100% true.

OP - I think your reaching on this one. It's bad and I dont really see how you can look at it any other way.
 
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I think he and his staff just aren't that good at assessing players skills, particularly with respect to how they fit Pearl's "scheme".
 
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papatomany said:
I think he and his staff just aren't that good at assessing players skills, particularly with respect to how they fit Pearl's "scheme".
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Obviously, assessing talent isnt the issue because several of the players were recruited by most teams of significants...You may have the "scheme" part right but you dont get every part you want....consider a team with Selby and Craft(glue player) and just one of the bigs we spent time recruiting...then maybe we have a better look....If we can hold serve...weather the storm...I think....dont know...but think next years team may look a lot like the first three or four seasons under Pearl....(May be sitting at home enjoying the tourney from the couch) but the style we play may be similar....
 
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tennrich1 said:
Obviously, assessing talent isnt the issue because several of the players were recruited by most teams of significants...You may have the "scheme" part right but you dont get every part you want....consider a team with Selby and Craft(glue player) and just one of the bigs we spent time recruiting...then maybe we have a better look....If we can hold serve...weather the storm...I think....dont know...but think next years team may look a lot like the first three or four seasons under Pearl....(May be sitting at home enjoying the tourney from the couch) but the style we play may be similar....
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I don't think there's anything "obvious" about this. Picking the guy who's on everyone's list proves nothing about the ability to assess talent. It's the guy you get when you can't get that one that shows it. (And incidentally, Golden's offer list according to Scout had become only Georgia, South Florida, and us.) Pearl has a team of players he recruited, yet he can't press with them. He loves to crank threes, but only Scotty hits with any consistency, so we're shooting a lot less threes. (And both Woolridge and Golden were touted by Bruce when he signed them as guys who "can fill it up outside".)

The other day Bruce said: "I've done a poor job of recruiting and identifying needs, in the future we're going to make a concentrated effort to go after guys who can press, because that's who I am, a coach who presses." To his credit, he has finally realized that pressing and uptempo play are what has set his teams apart throughout his career and that his recruits have been predominantly useless for that.
 
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Taking a kid like Ramar Smith was brutal. You hope for the best but that guy seemed to be bad news all around. Not going after the Jenkins kid 100% from the get-go and then having him go to Vandy was brutal. The big thing that UT did well in BP first few years was shoot the 3 and force turnovers off of inbounds. That is gone bye-bye.
 
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tenmanjonez said:
Eh, not really, but I was more piggy backing on your statement, and just adding that the refs don't help his lack of agressiveness. Now that I read my post, it sounds VERY arguementative of your original post, but that's not how It was meant to be construed. It was in agreement with yours, with kind of a disappointed shake of the head to reality as well, my mistake :hi:
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I see what you're saying. No worries. :hi:
 
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