Post Birth Abortion

[OrangeEmpire]

Obstetricians call for euthanasia

Doctors involved in childbirth are calling for an open discussion about the ethics of euthanasia for the sickest of newborn babies. The option to end the suffering of a severely damaged newborn baby - who might have been aborted if the parents had known earlier the extent of its disabilities and potential suffering - should be discussed, says the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in its evidence to an inquiry by the Nuffield Council on Bioethics, which examines ethical issues raised by new developments.

And it is very clear…this isn’t a ‘discussion’ this is doctors looking for cover, they have already made the decision as to the ‘right or wrong’ they want this approved.

And why?

There are enormous social, emotional and financial costs involved in caring for a profoundly disabled baby, the submission adds. If a mother really understood the "real, life-long costs" of caring for such a child and understood the slim chance of being fully recompensed by the state, "perhaps she might feel differently about aggressive resuscitation and treatment of her premature baby. Perhaps her doctors might as well," says the submission.

Rationing medical care.

So much for ‘national healthcare for all’

Anyone seen my slippery slope?

 

[allvol123]

Sounds Hitleresque.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

It sure does, but is there another side to the story...

This issue is NOT about who supports human life and who doesn't support human life. This issue is about CHOICE.

I hope to never have to be in this situation where I might have to decide to put a newborn child out of its misery, but if one of the choices is illegal that takes away our freedom of choice.

I see this as no different than putting a suffering animal out of its misery, and as hard as that is it is sometimes necessary.

Now, ask me if I hold human life at the same level of respect as I do animal life. Go ahead, I dare ya.

But one thing to keep in mind, just like the adult cases where physicians and families face the decision whether or not to halt treatment and allow a patient to die, the technology that exists today can keep people "alive" in ways that just a decade ago could not be accomplished.

A lot of these infants and adults are not living in "natural" states. They are being kept "alive" by machines. Doctors are asking is it right to keep somebody alive using these machines or is it better, more natural, to let them die as they woud if nature took it's course.

Sorry did not quote the a Priest from the church of England from a related story.

 

[la.lovesorange]

I hope to never have to be in this situation where I might have to decide to put a newborn child out of its misery, but if one of the choices is illegal that takes away our freedom of choice.

I see this as no different than putting a suffering animal out of its misery, and as hard as that is it is sometimes necessary.

Now, ask me if I hold human life at the same level of respect as I do animal life. Go ahead, I dare ya.

The only question I have is, Do you have any kids?? Just curious.

 

[therealUT]

I hope to never have to be in this situation where I might have to decide to put a newborn child out of its misery, but if one of the choices is illegal that takes away our freedom of choice.

I see this as no different than putting a suffering animal out of its misery, and as hard as that is it is sometimes necessary.

I am not going to ask you anything. I am simply going to state that your post is easily the most repulsive post I have ever read in this forum.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

The only question I have is, Do you have any kids?? Just curious.

Yes I do, I have an 11 month old boy named Peyton.

:dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2:

And I have two Treeing Walker Coonhounds......

Sorry, I just noticed what you guys thought I wrote for myself.

I do not support abortion in any way.

 

[allvol123]

Yes I do, I have an 11 month old boy named Peyton.

:dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2:

And I have two Treeing Walker Coonhounds......

Sorry, I just noticed what you guys thought I wrote for myself.

I do not support abortion in any way.

That's what I thought last night, thought you meant to post that as a quote, not as your own thoughts. It did look kind of ffreaky coming from you.

 

[SmokeyVol]

Abortion = Murder

Enough said!

 

[la.lovesorange]

Yes I do, I have an 11 month old boy named Peyton.

:dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2:

And I have two Treeing Walker Coonhounds......

Sorry, I just noticed what you guys thought I wrote for myself.

I do not support abortion in any way.

:good!:

 

[OWB]

Maybe one day we'll all be lucky enough to have the government control every little thing we do.

 

[therealUT]

Maybe one day we'll all be lucky enough to have the government control every little thing we do.

I don't think this is a matter of choice vs. control. I think the argument revolves around where the person believes life actually begins. However, a move into "Post-Birth Abortion", aka infanticide, definitely crosses that line. There is absolutely no rational argument that life begins somewhere between birth and birthday number 1...

 

[SmokeyVol]

:rtfm:

Fertilization: LIFE BEGINS!

Life truly begins at fertilization. At fertilization, when the sperm and the ovum meet to form a single cell, a new human life is created. All characteristics of each person - sex, eye color, shoe size, intelligence, etc. - are determined at fertilization by the baby's genetic code in the 46 human chromosomes. Every person begins as a separate single cell; nothing new is added but oxygen and nutrition. If the process is not interrupted, a human being will live about nine months in the mother's uterus and decades outside it. That person has never existed before and will never exist again.

This photograph was taken about 30 hours after fertilization. Within one week of fertilization, a new human being implants in the mother's uterus and is nourished there.

 

[TheGimp]

To quote Bill Maher, "I'm pro-choice, pro death penalty, and pro assisted suicide. I'm for anything that gets the freeways moving faster."

 

[OWB]

I don't think this is a matter of choice vs. control. I think the argument revolves around where the person believes life actually begins. However, a move into "Post-Birth Abortion", aka infanticide, definitely crosses that line. There is absolutely no rational argument that life begins somewhere between birth and birthday number 1...

I'm waiting for the government to tell me how to reply to this. Please hold.

 

[crazyguy]

Maybe one day we'll all be lucky enough to have the government control every little thing we do.

perhaps one day we'll be lucky enough to have no government....wait, I suppose that's a little over the top too.

 

[OWB]

perhaps one day we'll be lucky enough to have no government....wait, I suppose that's a little over the top too.

But then we'd really have to think and act on our own, that would just be too much.