Post-Spring Top 25 from ESPN

#3
#3
I think it's pretty lame that rankings like that include schedules. He mentions that several teams are ranked lower because their schedule is so hard. Having a hard schedule doesn't make you a worse team. You shouldn't be ranked below weaker teams because said teams have favorable schedules. Preseason rankings should reflect the 25 best teams, not the 25 teams likely to finish with the best records. I know the writers want to impress everyone by predicting how everything will pan out, but I think this kind of ranking is unfair to good teams with tough schedules.
 
#4
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(kptvol @ May 19 said:
I think it's pretty lame that rankings like that include schedules. He mentions that several teams are ranked lower because their schedule is so hard. Having a hard schedule doesn't make you a worse team. You shouldn't be ranked below weaker teams because said teams have favorable schedules. Preseason rankings should reflect the 25 best teams, not the 25 teams likely to finish with the best records. I know the writers want to impress everyone by predicting how everything will pan out, but I think this kind of ranking is unfair to good teams with tough schedules.
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I disagree.
 
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(NeanderVol @ May 19 said:
Am I missing something? By my count, we play Cal, Florida, LSU, and Georgia. Who is the fifth?
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Oops! You're right. We get to skip the beat down from Auburn this year.
 
#10
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kptvol, you are absolutely right.

Ranking the 25 best teams should be about ranking the 25 best football teams. If you want to predict where they will finish, based on SOS and all that other stuff, thats fine, but before the season starts, a team should be ranked based on the quality of their team. How a team was last year, what that team retuns from last year, what they replace the guys they lost with, etc should be the things looked at to determine how good a team is going to be. Ranking the best teams and predicting where they will finish are two totally different things.

I guess they "ranked" some teams lower last year because they had to play #2 Tennessee. How did #2 Tennessee end up being last year? Turns out the game wasn't as tough as some may have originally thought. You don't take into account a team's SOS with ranking them, you take that into account when you predict where they will finish. The SOS has absolutely nothing to do with how good of an actual football team a program has, but it does have an outcome on how good of a year they have.
 
#11
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Oh, and if the "experts" want to predict how a team will finish, thats fine. But, they need to clarify what they are doing. They are making predictions on the outcome of the upcoming football season, not rankng the 25 best football teams in the country.
 
#12
#12
(orangewizard98 @ May 19 said:
Oh, and if the "experts" want to predict how a team will finish, thats fine. But, they need to clarify what they are doing. They are making predictions on the outcome of the upcoming football season, not rankng the 25 best football teams in the country.
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"Can Texas repeat without Vince Young? Will Ohio State find the answers on defense? Is West Virginia really a contender? Are Notre Dame and Oklahoma among the challengers?"

It's funny. Nowhere does Maisel say, "Is Texas the best team in the nation." Instead, he says, "Can Texas repeat without Vince Young." It seems rather clear that is a projection of how the team's record will be in 2006.
 
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(orangewizard98 @ May 19 said:
Ranking the 25 best teams should be about ranking the 25 best football teams.
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I agree with that statement. Now who said anything about Maisel ranking the 25 BEST teams?
 
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(Vol423 @ May 19 said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/stor...ht&lid=tab3pos1

Tennessee playing 5 of the top 22 in the nation from this poll (and I really can't imagine any reputable poll that wouldn't include all 5 of those teams in the top 25).
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How can F$U be #5? 7 starters on D and countless lost to the NFL from an 8-5 team..and suddenly they get alot better? :huh:
 
#15
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(NCGatorBait @ May 20 said:
How can F$U be #5? 7 starters on D and countless lost to the NFL from an 8-5 team..and suddenly they get alot better? :huh:
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I call it the Bowden effect.
 
#16
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Yeah, their past 20 years of success continues to make them a media darling. I'm sure they've got talent, but objectively speaking there is little to justify FSU as top 10.
 
#17
#17
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/stor...ivan&id=2449900

it has comments about every team...

1. Ohio State
2. Oklahoma
3. WVU
4. Texas
5. FSU
6. USC
7. CAL
8. Notre Dame
9. Auburn
10. Iowa
11. Clemson
12. Florida
13. LSU
14. Oregon
15. Nebraska
16. Michigan
17. Lousville
18. Miami- FL
19. TCU
20. Boston College
21. Penn State
22. UGA
23. UTEP
24. Virginia Tech
25. Texas Tech


Also receiving consideration: BYU, Northern Illinois, Northwestern, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Utah and Wisconsin.

 
#18
#18
(Rocky Top NCDB @ May 20 said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/stor...ivan&id=2449900

it has comments about every team...

1. Ohio State
2. Oklahoma
3. WVU
4. Texas
5. FSU
6. USC
7. CAL
8. Notre Dame
9. Auburn
10. Iowa
11. Clemson
12. Florida
13. LSU
14. Oregon
15. Nebraska
16. Michigan
17. Lousville
18. Miami- FL
19. TCU
20. Boston College
21. Penn State
22. UGA
23. UTEP
24. Virginia Tech
25. Texas Tech
Also receiving consideration: BYU, Northern Illinois, Northwestern, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Utah and Wisconsin.
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All these pundits with Cal in their top 10 will have to have the egg surgically removed from their face after the season.
 
#19
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(hatvol96 @ May 20 said:
All these pundits with Cal in their top 10 will have to have the egg surgically removed from their face after the season.
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It's good for us if we can beat them in the opener though.
 
#21
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(hatvol96 @ May 20 said:
All these pundits with Cal in their top 10 will have to have the egg surgically removed from their face after the season.
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I don't know. If Cal were to beat UT in the opener, and I think it is possible, then their only remaining games against remotely quality opponents are USC, Arizona State and Oregon. So if they were to beat UT, I could see a 2-loss season (or better) for Cal as a very definite possibility. That would probably result in them being in the Top 10. Even if they were to lose to UT in the opener, wins against 2 of their other 3 "tough" opponents would result in at Top 10 ranking going in to the bowl games.
 
#22
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(Vol423 @ May 20 said:
I don't know. If Cal were to beat UT in the opener, and I think it is possible, then their only remaining games against remotely quality opponents are USC, Arizona State and Oregon. So if they were to beat UT, I could see a 2-loss season (or better) for Cal as a very definite possibility. That would probably result in them being in the Top 10. Even if they were to lose to UT in the opener, wins against 2 of their other 3 "tough" opponents would result in at Top 10 ranking going in to the bowl games.
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UCLA and Oregon State can both beat Cal.
 
#23
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(Vol423 @ May 20 said:
I don't know. If Cal were to beat UT in the opener, and I think it is possible, then their only remaining games against remotely quality opponents are USC, Arizona State and Oregon. So if they were to beat UT, I could see a 2-loss season (or better) for Cal as a very definite possibility. That would probably result in them being in the Top 10. Even if they were to lose to UT in the opener, wins against 2 of their other 3 "tough" opponents would result in at Top 10 ranking going in to the bowl games.
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Minnesota is also perfectly capable of beating the Golden Bears.
 
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