Pre-Season tourneys

#3
#3
If the person doing the bracket has half a brain we will be on opposite sides as NC State. I like the field, in that 2 wins over the rest of those teams would be good solid wins, then the game verse Nc State will be a huge opportunity.

Should give us a good idea as to how the team will be IMO, and that's about the only thing you're looking for in these early tournaments.
 
#5
#5
The Battle of Atlantis tourney is stacked. IMO, rivals the field for the Maui. And wow, the GAS Tournament has really fell off but it's expected. Nobody wants to go somewhere to freeze when you have teams in Mexico, the Virgin Islands, and Hawaii.
 
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I think UMass loses very few of their players from last year, and they lookd pretty good in the NIT. I think they went to NYC.

Providence has a great recruiting class coming, most likely the best in the Big East. They'll be talented but young.

The Maui actually looks pretty 'meh'. Two teams that just lost their coach (Miss. St. and Illinois) and some underacheivers (Butler and Texas). Marquette is really the only team that had a season worth a damn last year.
 
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Providence class is pretty impressive all things considered.

2 5* top 25 players?? There's only 3 other teams that can claim that as well this year.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Oh ok, I knew it was somewhere over there. Regardless, kudos to josh, 3 foreign trips in about a 6 month span?
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I could be wrong. Kinda surprised no one started a thread about it because it's kinda old news now. I'll make one when I get to my comp. Unless someone else beats me to it.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Providence class is pretty impressive all things considered.

2 5* top 25 players?? There's only 3 other teams that can claim that as well this year.
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From our earlier conversation....providence's coach is an example of a mid major coach with a good second recruiting class.
 
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volbeast33 said:
That cloud was lifted the summer before he coached his first game.....I don't think that excuse applies.
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If you honestly believe it had no effect then clearly this conversation doesn't need to go any further.

Its not an excuse it's a legitimate reason. If you really think the NCAA investigation and cloud had no effect on recruiting you are in denial.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If you honestly believe it had no effect then clearly this conversation doesn't need to go any further.

Its not an excuse it's a legitimate reason. If you really think the NCAA investigation and cloud had no effect on recruiting you are in denial.
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It may have had some but not nearly the effect you assume it did....lane kiffin had to meet with the ncaa too and there were rumors more would come out and it had minimal affect on football recruiting.

It was decided three to four months before the early signing period....I'm not saying he won't get the job done but I will feel a lot better when/if some of the better looking prospects in 2013 start committing.
 
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volbeast33 said:
It may have had some but not nearly the effect you assume it did....lane kiffin had to meet with the ncaa too and there were rumors more would come out and it had minimal affect on football recruiting.

It was decided three to four months before the early signing period....I'm not saying he won't get the job done but I will feel a lot better when/if some of the better looking prospects in 2013 start committing.
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Apples to oranges football and basketball, come on now.

3-4 months before early signing period? CCM first class was in the middle of the NCAA stuff, those guys were on campus when it cleared. So that leaves only this years class...not exactly a bad class for 2012...5* 3* 2* and juco

It's really simple. Most relationships in recruiting are 2 years ahead. Therefore when he came here he was already behind on the first 2 classes. Then add in that the players he did try to recruit had seen only negative attention about UT, and possible postseason bans and scholarship losses. By the time the smoke cleared the 2011 class was already on campus. So now you have 2012, as I already explained he was behind on that class due to relationships not bring built. Then, the negative effect of the NCAA was still being thrown around by opposing coaches. Yet look at the 2012 class...5*, 3*, 2* and a juco. That's not exactly a horrible class.

Yes he needs to prove himself in 2013 with a good class, but all these people complaining about the 11& 12 classes are uneducated. As I've challenged many, show me a mid major coach that went to a high major with a NCAA black cloud hanging over, and had 2 significantly better classes?
 
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