You can say whatever you want about Meguiars, but it doesn't hold up as well as the 3M products. I will agree with Broyles that a good carnauba wax works great for cleaning, but for shine, protection and lasting power step up and pay a little more. I used to detail cars on the side for extra money everyone wanted to know the secret as to why they couldn't get their Wal-Mart/Autozone wax products to looks as good as I could get. Cleaner wax+performance shine wax from 3M will beat Meguiars, Mothers, Armor All, whatever every day of the week.