Preparations For Florida

[kiddiedoc]

I know it seems off-key to start a thread pertaining to a "constructive" topic lately, but here goes.

I heard Fulmer talking this morning about preparing the Scout team to run Florida's offense for practice this week and was wondering. . . . (forgive if this is a silly question) who all is on the "Scout" team and if the team attempts to learn the opposing offense and defense every week?

 

[QBvol7]

Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Sep 9, 2005 7:59 AM
I know it seems off-key to start a thread pertaining to a "constructive" topic lately, but here goes.

I heard Fulmer talking this morning about preparing the Scout team to run Florida's offense for practice this week and was wondering. . . . (forgive if this is a silly question) who all is on the "Scout" team and if the team attempts to learn the opposing offense and defense every week?

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I would assume we would probably use Sinclair Cannon or maybe Lucas Taylor to play QB as Leak, and prbably someone like Hardesty or Coker to play TB. And any back-up O-lineman an WR's, god knows we have so many. That would be my guess.

 

[VOLracerx]

That is a great question - I would assume that the Scout team learning the other offense would only be done with offenses that we haven't seen befoe. I am probably wrong.

I would also assume that the scout team would consist of the 3-4 string players that wouldn't see much time any way (at least right now).

but then again - what do I know!!!! ost-20645-1119625378:

 

[GAVol]

Since there are no JV teams anymore, I think most "scout" teams are made up of 4th stringers and walkons that you've never heard of.

 

[VOLracerx]

My question would be how effective this strategy would be??? If they are using a Scout team - how fast would they be able to learn the offense and represent it acurately??? I guess when they have 2 weeks they can do something but in a normal game week - woudl there be enough time to coach the scout team and the gameday team???


EDIT: I just talked to my boss - who is a die hard UGA fan - his statement was that they run a skeleton version of the offense and defense - they do this every week in order to best prepare the team. it serves 2 purposes - the first is that it get the team ready for game day - the second is that it gives the younger guys reps against the first and second teamers - normally I wouldn't give staements from other people but this guy has been around CFB a long long time.

 

[GAVol]

That's exactly what happens every single week. The scrubs simulate the opponents' tendencies.

 

[kiddiedoc]

That's about what I figured. Don't you think that, in this game's circumstance, it will be exceptionally difficult for 3rd-4th stringers to learn a complicated, field-stretching, and option-based attack? Having run the option many times back in my younger years (you know, serious 5-on-5's at the park sunday afternoons in the fall during college. . . .hardy, har, har), it seems awfully tough to get comfortable taking a lick right as you pitch the ball (even if it's from some guy you call a "friend"). There's no way that our guys who can't even get a bus ticket to Gainesville will be able to simulate Meyer and his Wacko style.

Just wondering if it being so different gives it a little bit of an advantage, and maybe if that explains why the "new wore off" for Spurrier after a while and teams started to be able to defend UF more effectively.

I just hope our guys get it in their heads to "stay home" on D and not get suckered into giving up big plays. If we force them to sustain drives, I would bet on Leak getting rattled or something backfiring so as to create turnover opportunities.

 

[VOLracerx]

I agree with you on that call - how cn these guys imitate that style that quickly?? I guess it just gives our D a chance to get a basic idea of what they will see.

 

[GAVol]

Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Sep 9, 2005 10:23 AM
There's no way that our guys who can't even get a bus ticket to Gainesville will be able to simulate Meyer and his Wacko style.

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lol:

You do have to wonder about that.

 

[IBleedOrange]

well i cant really speak for the spread option so much but i do know thats why teams traditionally struggle against versions of the option because its really hard to simulate the speed the actual team will have to run it with, plus you have to cover so many people and its usually one defender to one man on offense and if somebody on D forgets their assignment or gets beat by the guy they are supposed to cover then thats when the big plays happen obviously.

 

[GAVol]

Originally posted by IBleedOrange@Sep 9, 2005 1:34 PM
if somebody on D forgets their assignment or gets beat by the guy they are supposed to cover then thats when the big plays happen obviously.

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That's the toughest thing. Speed and athleticism can disrupt the option at times, but overall it's more about the assignments. Look at what Georgia Southern did to UGA last year in their opener. UGA won handily, but got 28 points hung on them by a 1AA school.

 

[KYVolFan]

:devilsmoke:

Originally posted by IBleedOrange@Sep 9, 2005 1:34 PM
well i cant really speak for the spread option so much but i do know thats why teams traditionally struggle against versions of the option because its really hard to simulate the speed the actual team will have to run it with, plus you have to cover so many people and its usually one defender to one man on offense and if somebody on D forgets their assignment or gets beat by the guy they are supposed to cover then thats when the big plays happen obviously.

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:hi: Boise State runs a version of the Spread Option. UGA did not seem to have a problem with it. :twocents: I didn't see Boise State run one play Yourbane's strain of the Spread Option is famous for and that is the Utah Pass off the run option.

Granted Yourbane's Run Option Utah Pass is hard to defend but I suspect Chavez has a strategy. :cross: Seemingly, if the Middle Linebacker, Outside Lineback and Cornerback stays at home, the Utah Pass is doomed. :devilsmoke:

 

[milohimself]

Originally posted by KYVolFan@Sep 9, 2005 2:52 PM
:devilsmoke:

:hi: Boise State runs a version of the Spread Option.  UGA did not seem to have a problem with it.  :twocents:  I didn't see Boise State run one play Yourbane's strain of the Spread Option is famous for and that is the Utah Pass off the run option. 

Granted Yourbane's Run Option Utah Pass is hard to defend but I suspect Chavez has a strategy.  :cross:  Seemingly, if the Middle Linebacker, Outside Lineback and Cornerback stays at home, the Utah Pass is doomed. :devilsmoke:
   

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I don't think that was quite a fair representation... Jared Zabransky made bad decisions on his own (I failed to see a lot of that SEC defensive pressure that's so famous) to begin with, then eventually gave up. Zabransky handed UGA the game on a silver platter, and the rest of the team eventually followed suit.

As for Urban Meyer's system, I haven't seen Florida play yet but I'd assume it's more rooted in standard options than trick plays.

 

[shodges119]

I honestly think this whole SPread Option thing is for real however... I personally am not convinced the PLayers have had enough practice with it under true pressure not to make some huge mistakes. 2 years from now Florida will have it down and running on all 8 cylinders. They have played 1 REAL Games and struggled with running in this system. We wont get burn in the secondary like Wyoming did. This year they make enough mistakes to give us the win.

 

[milohimself]

They didn't get burned, they got annihilated. Seventeen straight completions is the stuff of legend. If Leak plays even half as good it will keep them in it.

And the reason their run game sucked is because their starting RB had to sit out.