President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[lawgator1]

So is he really selling $5M Gold Cards?

You get a 10 percent discount if you buy the Trump MAGA Package, which includes 7 steaks, a genuine Wisconsin-made Swiss watch, and a USA Bible, made in China.

 

[hog88]

you avoided my question after I answered yours.

If the meeting started at 10:00 and the prayer was at 10:01, I doubt they were making allowances for people to show up at 10:03.

Still there was no requirement to participate in the prayer. It's freedom OF religion and not freedom FROM.

 

[lawgator1]

I honestly don't have a problem with the prayer. I think in a Cabinet meeting it should be the President's personal privilege to have one if he'd like, and in the sect he'd like, if any.

Is it better to have one that is non-sectarian? Sure. But its not like a town hall or a formal hearing, its more or less a publicity stunt, akin to a campaign rally, its a perk of the office, and all Presidents do them. So if he wants one, fine.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Luckily trump hasn't gotten us to the beheading part yet, now forced submission - he's pretty much there.

And what % of the group should want to pray before it is acceptable in your eyes? 30%, 51%, 80%, 99% - and how are you going to know?

That's what your savior Obama did when he executed innocent Americans from afar.

 

[jmacvols1]

Damn, didn't see that. Nuland was right, F*** the EU.

a judge ordered Trump to pay billions in foreign aide by midnight tonight "or else". Have not heard if Trump has paid or not.

 

[05_never_again]

“People who decidedly don’t need the money”

Who the hell are you to decide what another man needs?

Those kids of people don't see the tax system solely as a funding mechanism (like most conservatives/libertarians do).

They see it as a social engineering mechanism/a mechanism to ensure "fairness" (as they define it).

 

[InVOLuntary]

lol.....How are they going to abstain from hearing the prayer?

You're talking about a moment of silence - which is a completely different thing - if you actually think about it.

The first amendment guarantees my right to practice my religion publicly. It also protects my right to free speech. Why don't you get some of your commie friends together and appeal the first amendment?

 

[InVOLuntary]

You serious???

Not only is that phrase not in the constitution, there is a prayer every inauguration of a new president.

The first amendment has been so distorted over the years by the left. It basically says the government can't prefer one religion over others - a state sponsored religion.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I was wrong

 

[LouderVol]

Trumps had busy day...

yeah job growth won't work like that. Not unless they take the extreme long view, more than a decade +.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You responded to me.
Said something you now realize was stupid and indefensible.
And now are begging pardon to leave the conversation.
You have my blessing.

Blessing? You are interjecting your religious beliefs on him?

*Insert Thunberg meme*

 

[LouderVol]

Still there was no requirement to participate in the prayer. It's freedom OF religion and not freedom FROM.

and I think it, especially via Trump, takes away from what should be happening.

you really think Trump is in their praying? How many of them in that meeting are actually taking a moment to talk to God, or better listen to him? Its a pure publicity stunt, like the Trump bibles. its got no place in government. Its the exact same as those hacks kneeling in the Capitol with African scarves.

but sure, pander to your base selling Jesus. pretty sure the Bible has somethings to say about that.

 

[InVOLuntary]

and I think it, especially via Trump, takes away from what should be happening.

you really think Trump is in their praying? How many of them in that meeting are actually taking a moment to talk to God, or better listen to him? Its a pure publicity stunt, like the Trump bibles. its got no place in government. Its the exact same as those hacks kneeling in the Capitol with African scarves.

but sure, pander to your base selling Jesus. pretty sure the Bible has somethings to say about that.

Awfully presumptuous of you.

 

[LouderVol]

Awfully presumptuous of you.

what regarding Trump? I will take those odds pennies vs dollars.

oh yeah, I forgot, somehow its different....because its Trump.

he really is the most God-fearingest good ole poor, simple, southern boy who always takes time to thank God and listen to His Word.

 

[n_huffhines]

Adam Bates

Did Russia invade Ukraine? It’s a pretty simple question I had for the Deputy Secretary of Defense nominee. It’s an obvious “yes” to everyone except this administration.

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[hog88]

and I think it, especially via Trump, takes away from what should be happening.

you really think Trump is in their praying? How many of them in that meeting are actually taking a moment to talk to God, or better listen to him? Its a pure publicity stunt, like the Trump bibles. its got no place in government. Its the exact same as those hacks kneeling in the Capitol with African scarves.

but sure, pander to your base selling Jesus. pretty sure the Bible has somethings to say about that.

Of course it's pandering but since when is pandering unconstitutional as you have erroneously claimed.

 

[InVOLuntary]

what regarding Trump? I will take those odds pennies vs dollars.

oh yeah, I forgot, somehow its different....because its Trump.

he really is the most God-fearingest good ole poor, simple, southern boy who always takes time to thank God and listen to His Word.

I thought you were all "libertarian"? Please tell me you are not going all liberaltarian like most libertarians are. I don't think it's wise to ever assume what is in someone's heart, good or bad. If you think he/they are virtue signaling that's fine. But to declare with 100% certainty that they are not genuine, that's your problem not theirs.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Yes

Words don't hurt. Just don't get people being so sawft that they are bothered by words said to something or someone they don't believe in. lol

 

[luthervol]

That prayer was optional, nobody was required to participate.

It wasn't optional. A prayer gathering 15 minutes before the meeting at the Tammy Faye statue would be optional.

 

[luthervol]

What part of the prayer was required?

The hearing it part.....which would be the most intrusive aspect.

 

[InVOLuntary]

It wasn't optional. A prayer gathering 15 minutes before the meeting at the Tammy Faye statue would be optional.

I assume you are 100% against the Muslim call to prayers 5 times a day in Minneapolis.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

The hearing it part.....which would be the most intrusive aspect.

Were you one of the goobers that complained about prayers before kickoffs at Neyland?

 

[Orange_Crush]

It's only going to get worse president elonald and crew will make America an oliarch owed wonderland and he'll for peasants. Hope you magas like what you wanted.

I'm out of here. Can't educate you idiots and no longer going to try.

Please! No!

 

[n_huffhines]

Were you one of the goobers that complained about prayers before kickoffs at Neyland?

Were woke people kneeling?

 

[hog88]

It wasn't optional. A prayer gathering 15 minutes before the meeting at the Tammy Faye statue would be optional.

Nobody there was required to participate.