President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

[VolStrom]

Did you even read the articles? The issue has nothing to do with the production of these sensors being outsourced to China. It has to do with the worldwide shortage of semiconductor chips. They can't manufacture the sensors because they don't have the chips needed to produce them. I've been telling you guys for weeks that the supply chain issues are FAR, FAR deeper than the issue at the ports. There is a worldwide shortage of just about everything, particularly anything that goes into making electronics of any sort. How extensive is the issue? If you want any chance of having semiconductor chips delivered by November 2022, you better already have your purchase order in to the manufacturer. This problem is going to continue to get worse. IMO, there is zero chance the supply chain issues are resolved in 2022 short of a catastrophic recession/depression grinding demand to a complete halt.

Ok I went back and read the articles, how does the global chip shortage relate to DEF sensors? I have a background in engineering so I know the difference between a sensor and a chip.

 

[AM64]

Is this really a serious question? You don’t know the difference between a white and red oak tree? One has pointed leaves and the other more rounded.

Half serious. I don't know how to tell and haven't had the initiative to look it up. I'll also admit to being in the dark about how many varieties of oak there are - or if some varieties have multiple names.

 

[hog88]

The EPA is responsible for a shortage of DEF sensors?

Not directly but they could temporarily fix the problem with the stroke of a pen.

 

[allvol123]

Ok I went back and read the articles, how does the global chip shortage relate to DEF sensors? I have a background in engineering so I know the difference between a sensor and a chip.

From my experience, there are shortages of all types of electrical components. Not restricted to chips.

 

[hog88]

The EPA can approve the process of making software changes that will allow the DEF sensors to be bypassed until the sensors can be replaced. You can't bypass the DEF sensors without the EPA's approval. They better get off their government asses and get it done.

Can't "legally" bypass the sensors.

Another truck or two goes down "legally" is going to be an irrelevant term in my world.

 

[allvol123]

I’m literally spending my days this week planning out electrical component needs and placing orders for the next 13 months. These are items I would typically give very little thought to in terms of planning and would expect to be on the shelf all the time. Pre Covid/Biden.

 

[Orangeburst]

Trump was correct again...Source American.

 

[VolStrom]

Not directly but they could temporarily fix the problem with the stroke of a pen.

Yep, but they won't because "red states".

 

[Orangeburst]

Half serious. I don't know how to tell and haven't had the initiative to look it up. I'll also admit to being in the dark about how many varieties of oak there are - or if some varieties have multiple names.

Heaven forbid!

 

[hog88]

I’m literally spending my days this week planning out electrical component needs and placing orders for the next 13 months. These are items I would typically give very little thought to in terms of planning and would expect to be on the shelf all the time. Pre Covid/Biden.

I just ordered 2 more trucks today with an expected build date of Jan 2023. And of course no guarantee of the delivery price being the quoted price, they are making that clear in the contracts now.

 

[VolStrom]

Can't "legally" bypass the sensors.

Another truck or two goes down "legally" is going to be an irrelevant term in my world.

Would you shut down your business before you bypassed the DEF sensors? Me niether.

 

[Orangeburst]

I just ordered 2 more trucks today with an expected build date of Jan 2023. And of course no guarantee of the delivery price being the quoted price, they are making that clear in the contracts now.

Uhh..that seems unfair. You have to put anything down?

 

[AM64]

He was apparently asked the question by a buffoon. It was probably planned.

So in this case it's the socialist concept - take from wealthy neighborhoods and give back to the poorer neighborhoods. I'll bet pete never thought that when interstates were first built through cities some of it happened before white flight, and the affected people came after the fact. So is he planning to move railroads that predated interstates by a century for the same reason? What about the above ground commuter trains? The liberal mind is insanely wired, and mostly they are just absurd fools.

 

[allvol123]

I just ordered 2 more trucks today with an expected build date of Jan 2023. And of course no guarantee of the delivery price being the quoted price, they are making that clear in the contracts now.

Yea, pricing is an afterthought also. I know I need it and know I will pay what they say. Crazy.

 

[hog88]

There are a few things the clowns occupying the WH could do today that would help with rising costs and shortages yet they refuse to do any of them.

They could allow DEF and other exhaust sensors to be bypassed. They could suspend IMO 2020, they could modify the hours of service regs, they could strip CA of the ability to set it's own emissions standards in areas of interstate commerce. All would help, not solve the problems but they won't do ****.

 

[hog88]

Would you shut down your business before you bypassed the DEF sensors? Me niether.

Not a chance.

 

[Vol423]

Ok I went back and read the articles, how does the global chip shortage relate to DEF sensors? I have a background in engineering so I know the difference between a sensor and a chip.

I am not an engineer, but based on what the articles are saying, chips are used in the manufacture of the DEF sensors. As allvol123 just stated, though, there are shortages of all types of electrical components. I can confirm that from my experience. It actually extends well beyond electrical components to other things as well.

 

[VolStrom]

I'm intrigued by the fact that hog can't get parts for his trucks, but buttedgeedge is condemning roads and bridges as racist. We live in a very F'd up world.

 

[hog88]

Uhh..that seems unfair. You have to put anything down?

Nothing down. All it does is semi-guarantee us build slots, they will give us an updated price prior to build and we can walk away if need be. Heck the dealer could still take delivery, throw a dump bed on them and sell them both in a day.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

There are a few things the clowns occupying the WH could do today that would help with rising costs and shortages yet they refuse to do any of them.

They could allow DEF and other exhaust sensors to be bypassed. They could suspend IMO 2020, they could modify the hours of service regs, they could strip CA of the ability to set it's own emissions standards in areas of interstate commerce. All would help, not solve the problems but they won't do ****.

Don't forget California's (55 MPH) rule for trucks to help move freight in/out of the state etc..

 

[hog88]

I'm intrigued by the fact that hog can't get parts for his trucks, but buttedgeedge is condemning roads and bridges as racist. We live in a very F'd up world.

No one in this administration is concerned about the actual people that make it work.

 

[hog88]

Don't forget California's (55 MPH) rule for trucks to help move freight in/out of the state etc..

Feds have no say in that.

 

[Vol423]

I’m literally spending my days this week planning out electrical component needs and placing orders for the next 13 months. These are items I would typically give very little thought to in terms of planning and would expect to be on the shelf all the time. Pre Covid/Biden.

I've been heavily involved with this type of planning since late December 2020/January 2021, and ordinarily I would hardly be involved in this at all.

 

[VolStrom]

No one in this administration is concerned about the actual people that make it work.

It's hard to understand people that work for a living when they have never worked themselves.

 

[Vol423]

Trump was correct again...Source American.

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This is a major issue. Major chip manufacturers have announced plans to build a number of large new production plants in the U.S., including in my home state of Arizona. However, you're likely looking at 3-5 years for those plants to be built and come online.