Anyone care to start this big question?? This is an issue that we all can agree on is one of the biggest problems facing teachers and parents. We ALL have to be on the same page here and get something done. Thoughts???
My grandmother was the kindergarten teacher at my elementary school and she would not hesitate to yank me up by the arm and woop me with a wooden paddle in front of everyone. These days a teacher would be sent to jail for something like that.
My mom is a teacher so I got it from both sides. She knew all my teachers so the whole "teacher is being unfair to me" thing just didn't fly. They were able to discipline me as they saw fit and I got the added bonus of them always letting my parents know what happened.
All these people who say that teachers should be paid more are just trying to make themselves feel good. What they need to do is allow teachers to get through their lessons without being scared of the parents. As I've gotten older I really respect her for teaching 25+ years and putting up with all the crap.
I certainly agree that the atmosphere at home has a lot to do with the need for punishment at school. I have a friend that teaches 8th grade in the Birmingham City School district - I'm amazed at the stories she tells me regarding student behavior.
The fact is that most parents that complain about the schooling their kids receive probably don't parent worth a sh^t. They hamstring the teachers with the threat of suing and think their kids are angels and that the only reason little Johnny isn't learning is because of the teacher. School is just one part of the puzzle, the more important piece starts at home.
I personally think that the school systems are setup to where the parents have like ZERO affect on what goes on there. They don't have any affect on what their child learns IN school which presents a HUGE problem. I have taught my 8 year-old things that her teacher should have taught her before certain lessons they had. She did learn IN school what I taught her, but like a month later than she needed it. If parents don't take some pride in what is going on in their child's life at school and at home, then the low-skill jobs are gonna be the most competitive market in the job industry. Punishment should be the same way. The problem is the ACLU wants self-esteem classes instead of having them to OBEY and RESPECT their elders. So the problem with punishment that I see is the Civil Rights people need to BACK OFF in regards to a child who only has rights thru their parents. The bad deal here is that some parents are drunks and dope-heads and Social Services won't do a DAMN thing about it.
I claim NO Political Partisinship at ALL. I think of myself as a person who has COMMON SENSE. I vote based on who is the best candidate R or D. If I don't like anyone, I don't vote because it is ignorant to vote just to vote. Having the Power is one thing, using it correctly is another.