Question about Wayne Chism

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Shaun1985

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He's kind of like the kid that hits a homerun in little league. After he does it, he swings for the fence everytime and strikes out at every single at bat. But seriously, I know his 3 point shooting has been increasing every year since his freshman year. Do you think the NBA has gotten into his mind a little too much? I know every player wants to go to the League but I know when I think back at some of those NBA boards that listed his strengths and weaknesses to get into the league, shooting away from the basket was a big one. Is he just playing selfish ball or maybe trying to work on a weakness more than a strength and the lack of control that Pearl has gives him a right to do so without being scolded for it? Maybe crazy but he spends more time around the arc than he does in the paint. Pearl obviously can't believe he's a "real" threat from out there, can he? I mean, SC stopped pretty much guarding him after he bricked those 3 early.
 
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Thank you. You've said what I've been saying all along. This kamikaze vomit offense we have is due to a lack of discipline and control from the coach's box. Everyone on the floor thinks they have the right to shoot the long trey. Pounding the ball inside is a lost art for Tennessee basketball. When Chism DOES post up, he's tough to stop, but unfortunately, our offense leaves him outside the arc begging for the ball far too often.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
He's kind of like the kid that hits a homerun in little league. After he does it, he swings for the fence everytime and strikes out at every single at bat. But seriously, I know his 3 point shooting has been increasing every year since his freshman year. Do you think the NBA has gotten into his mind a little too much? I know every player wants to go to the League but I know when I think back at some of those NBA boards that listed his strengths and weaknesses to get into the league, shooting away from the basket was a big one. Is he just playing selfish ball or maybe trying to work on a weakness more than a strength and the lack of control that Pearl has gives him a right to do so without being scolded for it? Maybe crazy but he spends more time around the arc than he does in the paint. Pearl obviously can't believe he's a "real" threat from out there, can he? I mean, SC stopped pretty much guarding him after he bricked those 3 early.
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It would seem that in organized ball a player plays where the coach tells him to play. I don't know of another D1 center that plays that way and not hit the pine for it. It is really costing us on the boards for sure, but you have to think that is CBP's game plan for whatever reason.
 
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every team should play zone against UT the rest of the year.....they have no clue how to penetrate a zone, much less how to flash someone to the middle to break down the zone....
 
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Jocyvol said:
It would seem that in organized ball a player plays where the coach tells him to play. I don't know of another D1 center that plays that way and not hit the pine for it. It is really costing us on the boards for sure, but you have to think that is CBP's game plan for whatever reason.
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The problem with our offense is that it ISN'T organized. We run a fist offense (or zero men posting up) a lot, but we don't make the cuts and off the ball screens that let this offense work. Instead we stand around the perimeter and beg for the ball to shoot the long jumper. The fist works if you have players making back door cuts and moving without the ball, which offers guys chances to post up their man on the cut. Unfortunately, we don't do that. And when we DO run a high/low post O, we don't look inside to the post.
 
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I agree with cuts. Chism would be a great mold for this in Pearls system. Every game tape shows him playing on the perimeter for over 3/4 of the game. We could hammer back door cuts all day. But of course, the other coach would adjust and Bruce wouldn't so it would lead to a lot of turnovers.
 
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At this point ANY movement without the ball would be nice though. I'd almost rather commit turnovers trying to go the hoop than jack up three's from 30 feet with no one inside to rebound.
 
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I'd just love to see the offense moving consistantly and not passing the ball back and forth at the top of the perimeter.
 
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Volnatic said:
The problem with our offense is that it ISN'T organized. We run a fist offense (or zero men posting up) a lot, but we don't make the cuts and off the ball screens that let this offense work. Instead we stand around the perimeter and beg for the ball to shoot the long jumper. The fist works if you have players making back door cuts and moving without the ball, which offers guys chances to post up their man on the cut. Unfortunately, we don't do that. And when we DO run a high/low post O, we don't look inside to the post.
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I agree. I've been watching all year and still can't figure out our offensive scheme, or if there is one. I fear we are in for a rough ride when we face the coaches in the SEC.
 
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I'm scared to see what the PGs in the SEC do to us. I'd say PG play in the SEC is probably as good as we've seen since Pearl arrived. A lot of talented ones. They will torch Maze/Goins and whoever tries to guard them.
 
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If we go .500 in the SEC this year I'll be thoroughly pleased. It's the same gameplan we've had for several years. We just don't have the same caliber of outside shooters, and as fans, we're blinded by our offensive ineptitude when shots are falling from outside. When they aren't, we get outrebounded and exposed (see: tonight)
 
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Chism can shoot the 3 and he makes a third of them. But the problem is he is out on the perimeter and there is no big man underneath to rebound.
 
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My point. If Pearls plan is use Chism on the Perimeter than let him play the 3 and play Williams and Smith around the basket.
 
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The problem is that if that's our gameplan, we will be considerably slower in the transition game (Williams taking the spot of a quicker guard/forward) and the press will be rendered useless since Chism will have to now play center field, and he really isn't a good enough off the ball defender to play center field for us...and right now the press is our only saving grace (when it's working).
 
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Yes. So in a nut shell, you believe its more efficient for Chism to stay in the paint. I wish pearl would see that. He's too slow to play the 3 and I agree it would slow down our transition game to have Williams contributing greater minutes but our lack of boards is a huge negative and doesn't weigh out the 3's he does make.
 
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Exactly. He should be pounding away on the glass instead of clapping his hands for an awkward looking three pointer. While he may very well be our second best three point shooter, he's a post man first. When he stays in the paint, he is a dominant force.
 
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If I was Wayne Chism's coach, I'd be walking around with a peg leg by now.
 
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I've been saying this for over 2 years now about Chism. I usually get scolded by people who tell me that he's a good 3-point shooter.

I was FURIOUS when he took a 3-pointer against Purdue when we were only down 1! That was insane! But the real crazy part was how many jokers on here thought it was a great idea, because "he hits that shot all the time."

The sad part is, Chism is a very good post player. Remember last year against Vandy? He was awesome.

If he would stop chucking up so many 3s I think he could easily be like an 18 and 10 guy.
 
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Blood Runs Orange said:
I've been saying this for over 2 years now about Chism. I usually get scolded by people who tell me that he's a good 3-point shooter.

I was FURIOUS when he took a 3-pointer against Purdue when we were only down 1! That was insane! But the real crazy part was how many jokers on her thought it was a great idea, because "he hits that shot all the time."

The sad part is, Chism is a very good post player. Remember last year against Vandy? He was awesome.

If he would stop chucking up so many 3s I think he could easily be like an 18 and 10 guy.
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I've felt that way about his shooting for a while now. He'd be much better served as a banger than as our "answer" to outside shooting woes.
 
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Blood Runs Orange said:
I've been saying this for over 2 years now about Chism. I usually get scolded by people who tell me that he's a good 3-point shooter.

I was FURIOUS when he took a 3-pointer against Purdue when we were only down 1! That was insane! But the real crazy part was how many jokers on here thought it was a great idea, because "he hits that shot all the time."

The sad part is, Chism is a very good post player. Remember last year against Vandy? He was awesome.

If he would stop chucking up so many 3s I think he could easily be like an 18 and 10 guy.
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I think many of those people are now the ones complaining about Chism shooting 3's.
 
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