Question on "package deals"

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I had a question on "package deals" for our recruiting experts. We all talked about situations like Nance and Rogers, and how we most likely don't take Nance on his own. However, the recent activity of Pat Martin recruiting other guys really agressively to UT after his visit made me wonder.

If we have numerous prospects at a given position, does the element of who they can recruit to come with them come into play? I'm not saying that's what happening, just thought it interesting. If you have several prospects you like equally, and are only going to take one, do you tell the recruits to see who they could also bring with them to make themself the more attractive option?
 
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Were Gerald Jones or Denarius Moore parts of supposedly packaged deals? Something in the deep dark parts of my memory says they were? Maybe I'm wrong. Chaney believes Nance is a good prospect. That has to count for something.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
Were Gerald Jones or Denarius Moore parts of supposedly packaged deals? Something in the deep dark parts of my memory says they were? Maybe I'm wrong. Chaney believes Nance is a good prospect. That has to count for something.
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I'm not really sure, but I don't think Gerald Jones was part of any package. I know that Denarius Moore was a package with Lennon Creer though out of Tatum, Texas.
 
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GJones was a product of TTaylor. I don't remember if anyone came with him from OK or not.
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I don't think that it is high on the coaches list of who else they bring with them, just think coaches are going after the best players they can.

...but I think coaches appreciate players recruiting for the program as well and will gladly accept other high profile players that want to join their boys. See Markeith Ambles before the coaching change.
 
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Careful using the term "package deal", which has come to mean something slightly different in the eyes of the NCAA. This term is often used to refer to someone associated with the recruit (usually a father or AAU coach) being offered a token employment position in the athletic department. It has been used to lure a fair amount of basketball superstars (Calipari did it a few times at Memphis), and I believe is no longer allowed.

I understand what you are getting at, though. Signing one recruit to lure his buddy is a VERY RISKY idea, and most coaches (even CLK said so) avoid it at all costs. With limits on scholly offers you can give out, that scholarship is way too important to burn on someone who won't contribute, especially with the attrition at UT. This team won't waste a scholarship on anyone that they don't think brings something significant on their own, regardless of who they can bring with them. They will, however, offer a good player to get a great one.
 
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GoVols said:
...See Markeith Ambles before the coaching change.
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I know he's talented and all, but man am I glad that diva didn't come here.

As far as the Nance/Rigers package, I'm pretty sure I remember Chaney saying the scholly for Nance was no hand out just bc his best friend happens to be the best WR in Ga.

I think, at the very least, CJC thinks Nance can compete for a starting role with a couple of years in college. I don't think its likely, but IMO he looks like a solid second stringer with "potential" to start...
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Sorry, didn't think about that aspect of the term package deal.

I guess what my thought was not offering a two star in hopes of him bringing a five star with him. More like if you have players A,B, and C - all at the same position, all rated about the same. Does precident go to the one who has the potential to bring additional, equal/higher rated players with him? I was just wondering if that factored into the coaches decision at all.
 
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GJ is from OK.

Creer and Moore were a package deal. The 3* has overwhelmingly outperformed the 4*.
 
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dlw4n said:
I understand what you are getting at, though. Signing one recruit to lure his buddy is a VERY RISKY idea, and most coaches (even CLK said so) avoid it at all costs. With limits on scholly offers you can give out, that scholarship is way too important to burn on someone who won't contribute, especially with the attrition at UT. This team won't waste a scholarship on anyone that they don't think brings something significant on their own, regardless of who they can bring with them. They will, however, offer a good player to get a great one.
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As bad as Kiffin wanted Jesse Scroggins, he wouldn't offer Jerry Anderson, Scroggins's cousin out of Houston High in Memphis, for this exact reason.
 
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OP is not saying offer a nobody. He's saying three targets that are already equal and you feel your on level ground with each, do you then look @ this. Yall aren't understanding his question.
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Gotcha. Well, I'm sure they consider it at least a little. But I'm sure they also consider things like character, leadership, work ethic, and ability to contribute to team chemistry. These things are probably more important to a coach like Dooley than if some 4* is from the same high school. They are more important to me, anyway. There are so many things to consider that I'd have to think their ties to other recruits falls pretty low on the list of considerations.

I could be wrong though, it wouldn't be the first time I didn't understand a football coach's motives.
 
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dlw4n said:
This term is often used to refer to someone associated with the recruit (usually a father or AAU coach) being offered a token employment position in the athletic department. It has been used to lure a fair amount of basketball superstars (Calipari did it a few times at Memphis), and I believe is no longer allowed.
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Yeah much like Wade/ Alan Houston!!!
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sjt18 said:
GJ is from OK.

Creer and Moore were a package deal. The 3* has overwhelmingly outperformed the 4*.
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Seems like Denarius won a state title in Texas track & field spring of his senior year and thats when we realized we had a gem. Before that, he was just "the other guy".
 
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