Questions about recruiting and scholarships

[vollygirl]

I haven't followed the process much until this year, other than keeping up with a name here or there.

But the whole Spurrier thing has me wondering how this all works.

How do they plan out all the scholarships available if some kids don't decide until signing day? If we have scholarships left over after that day, do we offer them? If someone waits until signing day, is he guaranteed his school of choice will still have a scholarship for him?

Sorry the questions are so random. I just really don't know how the whole thing works, and couldn't find a quick explanation on the web. Figured someone here could help me.

Thanks!!

 

[govols87]

you try your hardest to fill all the scholarships available. If you don't fill them up you try to save a few in case of walk-ons, transfers, etc... In USCjr and Spurrier's case, and you go after and get too many of those guys you're forced to rescind a sholarship offer here and there...it sucks but it does happen. The Ole Ball Coach should have went down there personally and talked to the kid, but we all know Steve isn't the most tactful person in the world. Sorry if I wasn't all that helpful.

 

[vollygirl]

No, you were, thanks!

I just didn't realize things stayed so up in the air sometimes.

 

[govols87]

Well it's certainly not an exact science. I'm guessing that's why there wasn't much online to search for.

 

[OHvol40]

What I do not understand in why you would let someone like Davis go. I understand that they maxed on schollys, but don't most schools oversign just about every year?

 

[Sabanocchio]

What I do not understand in why you would let someone like Davis go. I understand that they maxed on schollys, but don't most schools oversign just about every year?

They are still in on about 10 more prospects. Realistically, they will only get 4 or 5, but that still lands them at 29 or 30 players. Several of them are destined to be non-qualifiers, but USC has slackened their admission standards recently and you are still going to be looking at a situation where you are going to have to ask some people to grayshirt. They only have around 25 schollies to give, I think.

 

[govols87]

grayshirt...what a slap in the face. Well...I don't know if I would rather have a grayshirt or have done to me what SCjr did to Davis...either way I would HATE SCjr...even more than I do now.

 

[samdavol]

This is an excellent question. I have wondered about the same thing. I guess you know you will not get everyone you offer so maybe offer more than you need? Do you ever tell someone we need like two LBs and offer 4 telling them the first two to commit get the schollys? :zeitung_lesen:

 

[Sabanocchio]

grayshirt...what a slap in the face. Well...I don't know if I would rather have a grayshirt or have done to me what SCjr did to Davis...either way I would HATE SCjr...even more than I do now.

Grayshirts are bad for recruiting. That's why you so rarely see them.

 

[Sabanocchio]

This is an excellent question. I have wondered about the same thing. I guess you know you will not get everyone you offer so maybe offer more than you need? Do you ever tell someone we need like two LBs and offer 4 telling them the first two to commit get the schollys? :zeitung_lesen:

If you need two linebackers, you go after 8. I mean, realistically you know you aren't going to get nearly everybody you offer. Once you are more of a premier program, such as USC, you can afford to pick and choose who you offer. But it's more common that you throw everything at the wall and see what sticks, so to speak.

Later in the process, you have a better idea of which guys you realistically have a shot at, and you can stop recruiting heavily guys that you know you aren't going to get, but when you're making offers, you offer as many prospects as you think can play at this level.

 

[sjt18]

A school can only sign 28 kids a year but there are all kinds of math tricks to get around that if you end up over. One is to gray shirt a kid. I don't know how it works but somehow you can also back count scholarships. Most classes have attrition due to academics so most bigger schools will take more commits than they have scholarships.

I think it would be more difficult at smaller schools that have fewer scholarships to give.

 

[BYUVol]

A school can only sign 28 kids a year but there are all kinds of math tricks to get around that if you end up over. One is to gray shirt a kid. I don't know how it works but somehow you can also back count scholarships. Most classes have attrition due to academics so most bigger schools will take more commits than they have scholarships.

I think it would be more difficult at smaller schools that have fewer scholarships to give.

This is incorrect, you have 85 scholarships at any given time, you could sign 30 kids one year if you had that many schollies available.