Rating SEC Coaches

#3
#3
People like this have no credibility. How can you call a guy with an .800 winning percentage over the last 12+ years a bad gameday coach? There's no way to get lucky that many times.

. . . but what's completely illogical is trying to make a case for the #1 coach in the SEC to be Tommy Tuberville?!? This guy has won more than 9 games exactly ONCE in his life and is only a year removed from one of those 8 win seasons that he bashes CPF for. . . and nevermind that 5 years ago he only won 5 games??

I don't mean this as a Tuberville bash, but facts are facts. He's basically a 7-9 win coach who had a great year last year.

 
#4
#4
That's ludicrous. Richt and Meyer are good coaches, but let's see if they can win 80% of their games for 12+ seasons in the SEC. Same goes for Tuberville. He may have a knack for making struggling programs better, last season was the first time on of his teams has been top tier. I think CPF has accomplished that 7 times (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004).

Spurrier and Fulmer should be Co. #1's. The records are close, with Spurrier getting a little bit of edge, but he hasn't coached college football since 2001.

 
#5
#5
I just found another stat on Tuberville. Do you realize that last season was the first time in his career that he has gone through a season with less than 4 losses?!
 
#6
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Originally posted by GenNeyland9@Aug 1, 2005 8:54 AM
He may have a knack for making struggling programs better, last season was the first time on of his teams has been top tier. 
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Exactly what I'm talking about. His teams are usually pretty good, but last year was the first time they were great.
 
#7
#7
Tuberville? You serious?

The guy would've been fired had he not turned out an undefeated season last year, Auburn fans were sick to death of his constant underacheiving and last year saved him for the moment.

It also took him 2 top 10 picks in RB's(Brown, Williams), a 1st round QB (Campbell), and what would've been a top 10 pick had he declared at OT(McNeil.) Auburn was stacked as they have been the past few seasons and Tuberville finally got these guys to produce and win games.

I did also see that Rich Brooks of Kentucky is ranked higher than Mike Shula of Alabama, that's gotta sting.
 
#8
#8
There is no way you can put someone who has never coached a day in the SEC above Fulmer. They are nuts!!!!!
 
#9
#9
Originally posted by GoVolsDogg@Aug 1, 2005 11:11 AM
Tuberville? You serious?

The guy would've been fired had he not turned out an undefeated season last year, Auburn fans were sick to death of his constant underacheiving and last year saved him for the moment.

It also took him 2 top 10 picks in RB's(Brown, Williams), a 1st round QB (Campbell), and what would've been a top 10 pick had he declared at OT(McNeil.) Auburn was stacked as they have been the past few seasons and Tuberville finally got these guys to produce and win games.

I did also see that Rich Brooks of Kentucky is ranked higher than Mike Shula of Alabama, that's gotta sting.
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Wasn't it three Top 10 picks. Carlos Rodgers went high too.
 
#10
#10
Yep . . . 3 in the top 10 and 4 total in the first round.
 
#12
#12
For whatever reason, Phil is not popular with the majority of the news media.

It does cost them some credibility when they castigate a coach who has been so wildly successful as Phil has though.

If Phil were losing a lot of close games, then yes, criticize him. No one deserves to be criticized for winning though, no matter how you accomplish it. The simple fact is; Phil is part and parcel of a system that has produced close wins for 7 decades. General Neyland was a strong believer in gaining a lead and seccuring the win by the use of ball control offense and a destructive, smothering defense. One of his players, who later became the head coach at UT, Bowden Wyatt, described his philosophy of defense like this; get to the ball as quickly as you can and arrive in a nasty mood.

173 wins, 31 losses, 12 ties later, a winning percentage of .829, he's one of the most beloved, quoted, and respected figures in college football history.

Fulmer is now 123/31, a .799 win percentage.

A word of wisdom from an old fart: Sometimes a man's greatness is not recognized while he is able to relish, and enjoy it. When men die, their accomplishments somehow begin to grow, and their worth is often more recognizable than when they were alive. I'm not saying General Neyland's legacy is overblown, not at all, but I am saying that if Phil were to suddenly be moved off the scene, either by death or poor health, then his legacy would be in place.

Another wise gem to digest: Most of the writers and announcers in sports are quite young. They have very little insight into such things as history, legacy, and true value of a man's worth.

Bottom line; one of these days Phil will get his.
 
#13
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Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 1, 2005 11:54 AM
Wasn't it three Top 10 picks.  Carlos Rodgers went high too.
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That's right, forgot all about Carlos Rogers.

3 top 10 picks, would be 4 had Marcus McNeil declared, and 4 first rounders.

That is a pretty loaded team, not too many coaches would have a tough time with that, now include that the previous years have all been 4 loss or worse seasons and if Tuberville had not gone undefeated and won the SEC this year that he'd be out of a job, then you can see why he shouldn't be ranked #1 in the SEC.
 
#14
#14
Since 1997, Tuberville is 6-2 against LSU. His remarkable 13-0 season in 2004 should have won him a national championship
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That says it all. This guy is nuts. Putting him at number one in the SEC based on a record against ONE other team in the conference, and a "should have been" national championship season because Tubbs picked up a few blue chips to a program that could also be known as "Mediocrity U."

As far as Fulmer goes, the only knock I can think of on him is that his teams have seemed to under acheive a bit too much with all the talent that comes through.
 
#15
#15
The thing most media folks don't like about Fulmer is that he seems to be boring to them, and rarely has a good quote. He's also not a gambler, and goes about his business pretty quietly most of the time. Notice thers ranked ahead of him seem to fit those categories much better than Fulmer.
 
#16
#16
Why do we even give these idiots a breath? All they ever want to do is see how much they can pi** us off. I learned a long time ago that UT gets absolutely no respect as far as the media is concerned. so the best course of action is to ignore these fools and point to the scoreboard after the season...
 
#17
#17
man you could make a fortune sellin' the stuff this guy has been smokin'

what a chowderhead!!!!! I tell you what I will settle for a fifth ranked coach after last yrs performance!! and I would call that overacheivement wouldn't you Milo (even if they let Ky and Vandy stay close it was still an incredible yr considering all the injuries and the QB situation)
 
#18
#18
Alls I'm saying is Fulmer seems like he could have done a lot more up until 2004 with the talent he had. '04 showed a lot of promise, even if the Vols had to deviate from the Neyland style of football to win games.
 
#20
#20
And another thing. I agree that Saban is a good coach, but give me a break :shakehead:

Nick Saban may be gone, but he will not soon be forgotten by the Southeastern Conference. Though only in the league for five seasons, he goes down as one of the top five in the history of the SEC.
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Top five coaches in the history of the SEC :dlol: This guy obviously dosen't know jacks**t about the history of the SEC
 
#21
#21
only one of those coaches has a higher winning percentage then fulmer and that is sos. that should be changed by next year after a should be at least 5 loss season with usc.
 
#22
#22
Urban Meyer hasn't even played one game in the SEC and they have him above Fulmer who has outlasted forty other coaches in the SEC alone. Where do they find these people?
 
#23
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Originally posted by MyBloodRunnethOrange@Aug 1, 2005 5:38 PM
And another thing. I agree that Saban is a good coach, but give me a break  :shakehead:
Top five coaches in the history of the SEC  :dlol: This guy obviously dosen't know jacks**t about the history of the SEC
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Wow, I missed that gem, good Lord this guy is strung out on something.
 
#24
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I guess he never heard of Neyland, Bryant, Dooley, Vaught, Heisman, Dodd, Spurrier, Fulmer, Jordan, etc. etc.
 
#25
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Originally posted by GAVol@Aug 1, 2005 7:28 PM
I guess he never heard of Neyland, Bryant, Dooley, Vaught, Heisman, Dodd, Spurrier, Fulmer, Jordan, etc. etc.
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I think that the only thing to hold Saban back would be the shortness of his career vs. the others... If he stayed longer, I have no doubt he could be on the same level as Vince Dooley and John Vaught.

Spurrier will be remembered for a great, albeit brief stay. I don't think Jordan is on the highest level of coaches in the history of the game. John Heisman was never an SEC coach.

And if Fulmer stays around long enough, he could finish remembered at the same level as Bryant. It would take too long to reach the 300 wins club, but if he can manage another national title or two and keep the 10 win seasons rolling through, Fulmer will be remembered with the best of 'em.

But as for Saban, he took a laregely mediocre team (with breif stints of success, yes) and has turned them into a feared national powerhouse. Even though he was only around half a decade, I think one could be just and put Saban's name alongside the best of them.
 
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