Reading Fountainhead...

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Mattlock

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Nearing the end, this character's quote jumped out to me:
""No intelligent person believes in freedom nowdays. It's dated. The future belongs to social planning" Circa 1943

Scary relevant now...
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Have you read Atlas Shrugged yet? Both excellent. Both somewhat resemble todays political leaning.
 
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Has anyone read 'Tragedy and Hope?'

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"In a time of universal deceipt, it is a revolutionary act to tell the truth."
Orwell
 
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Interesting book. Her world view ought to be well-studied and understood, but it's not hard to see the vacuousness in Objectivist Ethics. Its political and economic derivations are perfectly reasonable in a bubble, but do not work in the real world.
 
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milohimself said:
Interesting book. Her world view ought to be well-studied and understood, but it's not hard to see the vacuousness in Objectivist Ethics. Its political and economic derivations are perfectly reasonable in a bubble, but do not work in the real world.
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This. Her stuff works great in the novels - it's comic book stuff. John Galt, Francisco d'Anconia, Howard Roark... Roark working in the quarry until he gets his first commission. It's legendary; I think I read Fountainhead in two sittings on consecutive crew rests.

However, I forget who said that Odysseus was the only character in literature we see fully as a man - as heroic, as cowardly, as noble, as petty, as forgiving, as vengeful, etc.

The future, however, certainly belongs to planning or there will be no future worth discussing.
 
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milohimself said:
Interesting book. Her world view ought to be well-studied and understood, but it's not hard to see the vacuousness in Objectivist Ethics. Its political and economic derivations are perfectly reasonable in a bubble, but do not work in the real world.
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I agree with it being non-practical to some extent, but I do think her ideas are an important reality check in times of expanding government and receding freedoms.
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utgibbs said:
How bad is it?

It seems a difficult screenplay to adapt - extremely difficult.
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I think people don't realize its out because it will get zero promotion. I think fans of the book will enjoy it, but be disappointed that it falls short and people who have not read the book will be lost and/or bored. Hard book to adapt.
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I've only read Anthem, but started Fountainhead and never finished. I thought Anthem was good.
 
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I read The Fountainhead and was not so impressed; however, I was blown away by We the Living.
 
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Seems like the Fountainhead would be a far easier screenplay as I think about this. Why jump right into Atlas Shrugged with a movie? A ridiculous Hollywood undertaking.

Regardless, Rand's "Objectivism" is comic book philosophy, but certainly influential especially in our "greed is good" era (dying now, thank goodness). Greenspan numbered among her early acolytes, proofing unfinished manuscripts. We need only cast an eye to the latest generation of Russians to see what she means in the real world. When Boris Berezovsky is glorified as a heroic figure - the call for Che's "New Men" could not be more timely.

Ayn Rand hero citizens are the folk at the front of the queue who don't get trampled rushing into Wal Mart on Black Friday.
 
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TennTradition said:
I haven't watched it yet, but it has been consistently hammered by critics and moviegoers alike.
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Of course critics will hammer it. And gibbs, they've already made Fountainhead into a movie, so they didn't want to remake it I'm sure. It wasn't "Hollywoods" doing either way, no major studio would touch a Rand movie script.
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TennTradition said:
I haven't watched it yet, but it has been consistently hammered by critics and moviegoers alike.
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They could have done much more with the film. The director felt the need to spell everything out....to levels that were nearly intolerable.

I can't argue that the premise is much more suited for a novel, but its' basic idea is less fictional and more attainable than a government created "utopia".
 
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I've read about a dozen or so reviews on RT, the criticism seems to be coming from the acting and production quality.
 
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Lexvol said:
The director felt the need to spell everything out....to levels that were nearly intolerable.
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That's the way most Randians I've come across try and prove their point... Though I suppose anybody who is that vocal about their opinions will be the same way.
 
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Lexvol said:
They could have done much more with the film. The director felt the need to spell everything out....to levels that were nearly intolerable.
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So in otherwords, he followed Ayn Rand's script? Rand wasn't exactly known for brevity in her novels... but was excellent in her rants/pious musings.
 
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