Really interesting article about Meyer and the Gators

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I thought it was interesting as well. The stories were not at all surprising. It seems like this is typical with a program that was as successful as Florida was during that time. I've learned to tolerate Spurrier and understand who he is. I cannot say the same about Urban. He's a great coach. I just don't know that I would trust the man, by what I have read or what I perceive about him. Just my opinion.
 
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give_him 6 said:
I thought it was interesting as well. The stories were not at all surprising. It seems like this is typical with a program that was as successful as Florida was during that time. I've learned to tolerate Spurrier and understand who he is. I cannot say the same about Urban. He's a great coach. I just don't know that I would trust the man, by what I have read or what I perceive about him. Just my opinion.
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Yes, only a few new specifics in there in terms of incidents. The stories about players and coaches fighting could have been fleshed out more.

But as a Gator fan its interesting to 1) realize just how talented that group was; 2) see that on the one hand they were hypercompetitive but on the other protective of one another; 3) that some players bought into that, but some are clearly bitter about it.

Just a better picture of the overall dynamic than you usually get.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, only a few new specifics in there in terms of incidents. The stories about players and coaches fighting could have been fleshed out more.

But as a Gator fan its interesting to 1) realize just how talented that group was; 2) see that on the one hand they were hypercompetitive but on the other protective of one another; 3) that some players bought into that, but some are clearly bitter about it.

Just a better picture of the overall dynamic than you usually get.
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I'm a Floridian but I simply do not like the guy. I felt the way he left UF and then ended up at Ohio State was nothing but a crock of *%#@...I think he was very disloyal to UF and I don't see how anyone could call him trustworthy.

I had posted this same article in the RF and I opined he represents much of what is so great about college football but he also is representative of the ugly side.

I know he won you guys championships but he's a chump.
 
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WinginFlorida said:
I'm a Floridian but I simply do not like the guy. I felt the way he left UF and then ended up at Ohio State was nothing but a crock of *%#@...I think he was very disloyal to UF and I don't see how anyone could call him trustworthy.

I had posted this same article in the RF and I opined he represents much of what is so great about college football but he also is representative of the ugly side.

I know he won you guys championships but he's a chump.
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I get that a lot of people feel that way, Gators fans or not. For me, personally, I think he just lost his focus and left, unable to really take the pressure. Who knows what else might have been going on in his life then? I don't think he left then, planning to suddenly pop up at tOSU a year later.

And even if he did, so what? It wouldn't have left us in any better shape if he'd jumped right from one to the other instead of waiting.

The problem at UF is that a lot of super talented kids wanted to go there, bu he started to waffle, and so guys like Strong and Addazio abandoned ship because they saw what was coming. And there went a ton of commitments.

So when Muschamp came in, he inherited a team where the top assistants were gone or on their way out, taking a lot of the better recruits with them. Add in Muschamp's inability to get a coherent offensive scheme together, and, whallah, yuck.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I get that a lot of people feel that way, Gators fans or not. For me, personally, I think he just lost his focus and left, unable to really take the pressure. Who knows what else might have been going on in his life then? I don't think he left then, planning to suddenly pop up at tOSU a year later.

And even if he did, so what? It wouldn't have left us in any better shape if he'd jumped right from one to the other instead of waiting.

The problem at UF is that a lot of super talented kids wanted to go there, bu he started to waffle, and so guys like Strong and Addazio abandoned ship because they saw what was coming. And there went a ton of commitments.

So when Muschamp came in, he inherited a team where the top assistants were gone or on their way out, taking a lot of the better recruits with them. Add in Muschamp's inability to get a coherent offensive scheme together, and, whallah, yuck.
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I hear you and I'm not about to tell you or other UF fans how they should feel about Urbie.

After reading the article, my "distaste" for him results from his building a culture that may have gotten somewhat out of control, he not only didn't address it or help fix it, he ran from it with his health and family "excuses" BS. Soon thereafter, he lands on his feet at OSU and is basking in all the glory. In the meantime, UF was left with a mess and you guys are still working your way through it. From my perspective, I can't help but find him very untrustworthy and am not sure if would want him working for me or sending my kid to play for him.

No question the rewards for all this were significant and that is why I stated that it's really UF's fans who need to decide how they feel about the man.
 
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Yeah, you know, I'm just not one of these people who views it like the guy needs to have some sense of loyalty to the program. We paid him like $4 milly a year to put together a good football team, not buy his love and affection. He did his job, and wanted to leave.

Coaches and loyalty are a tricky thing. Hard to say when it gets to the point that leaving when things are tough is a betrayal versus just business. Contrast him, for example, to Donovan as coach of the bball team. Now given how long he'd been there and what he'd done, if he'd up and left for Providence, or Kentucky, or any of the other places suggested at some point, then that would have felt wrong.

This? Nah. In fact we were always looking over our shoulder knowing that if Notre Dame gave him his terms he'd be gone in before the ink was dry. I appreciate what he did for the program and its painful to have to try to rebuild it. We made a mistake with Muschamp on that one (I was one of the ones fooled).

Just not personally aggravated at Meyer for it.
 
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I thought there were stories of infidelity as well; or rumors at least. I may be having this mixed up with another coach though.
 
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I don't think Meyer could stand the daily grind of the SEC without someone like Tebow as his QB. He pretty much sucked his last couple of years after Tebow left.

Hopefully Meyer ends up with the same fate at Ohio State, but I think it's a little easier on him in the B1G with little to no weekly hard games.
 
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Boston Vol said:
If I'm not mistaken I believe the rumor was Billy Gonzales slept with Shelley Meyer.
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That was one rumor.

Another was he was sleeping with one of his daughter's friend who was an UF Dazzler.

Both rumors had some legs right around the time he stepped down originally.
 
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HialeahGator said:
That was one rumor.

Another was he was sleeping with one of his daughter's friend who was a UF Dazzler.

Both rumors had some legs right around the time he stepped down originally.
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I heard Tebow was gay. The poor guy can't admit it because of of his religious convictions. Just a rumor though.
 
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HialeahGator said:
That was one rumor.

Another was he was sleeping with one of his daughter's friend who was a UF Dazzler.

Both rumors had some legs right around the time he stepped down originally.
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Also heard he negative recruited UF when he took the OSU job in regards to the criminal culture: the culture he fostered. Then Boom called him up and told him where to stick it.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Also heard he negative recruited UF when he took the OSU job in regards to the criminal culture: the culture he fostered. Then Boom called him up and told him where to stick it.
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Told a recruit's mom, maybe Stefon Diggs, he wouldn't let his son go to Florida. Classy
 
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It's somewhat odd that so many dominant programs have a web of favoritism and debauchery all around them. You'd think it would distract too much from goal. Miami, Cowboys, UF etc.
 
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Why are most of the greatest coaches and players thugs and douche bags?
 
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