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This whole thing with the recess appointments is really grating on my nerves and it doesn't seem to be getting the attention it deserves. Have we grown so accustomed to plainly unconstitutional actions from his majesty, excuse me, the president, that we don't even care anymore?

The only recess appointment debacle I can think of worse than this was when TR, the main example of the imperial president, made 160 of them between 11:59:59 and 12:00:00 on the first day of the new session when the senate never recessed.

I am ignoring the fact that originally a recess appointment was only made during the inter-session recess and not an intra-session recess and is the interpretation most supported by the text.
 
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It is a big, big deal. Had it been Bush (and Reid tried to goad Bush into it back in '07), the media would have had a fit.
 
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Bush had 130 recess appointments.

I agree - they should be banned but let's not act like this is a partisan issue.
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TruthIsOutThere said:
Bush had 130 recess appointments.

I agree - they should be banned but let's not act like this is a partisan issue.
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Obama just had 4 recess appointments while the Senate was in session. Bush could have had 4000 recess appointments and it wouldn't be this outrageous.
 
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bamawriter said:
Obama just had 4 recess appointments while the Senate was in session. Bush could have had 4000 recess appointments and it wouldn't be this outrageous.
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Garbage post. Whether its done in full recess or done when no one is around but the floor is kept open by a complete artifice, its dodging the Senate.

Neither side should do it.

Both do.

And the most recent Republican administration did it far more than the current Dem.

Quit pretending that there is a significant difference.

There isn't, everyone knows that, and if you REALLY oppose recess appointments then look in the mirror.
 
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What about recess appointments that directly violate the statute authorizing and directing the agency?
 
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dreVol said:
What about recess appointments that directly violate the statute authorizing and directing the agency?
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I said elsewhere that there is a legal battle brewing and I don't know who will win that.

But what this is really about is trying to paint Obama as running amuck with recess apointments to bypass the Senate, and that point is demontrably false. Saw some coverage of this on Fox and the commentators were literally red faced with anger, could hardly contain themselves.

They just hate the man so much, its really alarming sometimes.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Garbage post. Whether its done in full recess or done when no one is around but the floor is kept open by a complete artifice, its dodging the Senate.

Neither side should do it.

Both do.

And the most recent Republican administration did it far more than the current Dem.

Quit pretending that there is a significant difference.

There isn't, everyone knows that, and if you REALLY oppose recess appointments then look in the mirror.
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I'm not fond of recess appointments. But they are constitutionally allowed. And Congress is constitutionally allowed to block them via pro forma sessions.

But the issue isn't the recess appointment, as you're trying to make it out to be. It's that Obama just took a steaming dump all over the Constitution, and you're saying it smells awesome.
 
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If what he did was unconstitutional then the appointment will be shut down at some point, either legislatively or judicially, no?

Besides, if the GOP were standing on their morals and truly disagreed with the CPB's existence they would shut it down legislatively, instead of these 30 second sessions where somebody reads the day and time so they can block the POTUS from making an appointment.

The whole thing is stupid, and I have no idea what any of you are talking about with media coverage because I've heard about it on conservative talk radio, progressive talk radio (with their own slant about the "republi-cons", obviously), NPR, CNN, Fox and MSNBC.

The whole point of this is a base for PBO to get a boost, because the CPB is fairly popular IIRC, and the GOP won't do anything against it other than cock blocking it in an election year.

The whole thing will be legislatively defanged after the elections.
 
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The difference, to anyone who actually cares about the constitution rather than politics, is that the Senate was not in recess when the appointments were made.

If you can't see the significance of that then you are totally blinded by partisanship.

I hate recess appointments, and they are totally unnecessary in this day and age, but they are legal. This is not.
 
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