Record number of Americans on food stamps.

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Record 45.8 million receiving food stamps - UPI.com

That's about 15 percent of the U.S. population, U.S.
Department of Agriculture officials say.

But we call this a farm subsidy and the farmer catches
the heat when people discuss the budget.

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JohnQuincy: EBT (Food Stamp) Life: Casinos & Fast Food Now Welcome EBT Cash

California welfare recipients are able to use state-issued
debit cards to withdraw cash on gaming floors in more
than half of the casinos in the state, a Los Angeles
Times review of records found.

The cards, provided by the Department of Social
Services to help recipients feed and clothe their families,
work in automated teller machines at 32 of 58 tribal
casinos and 47 of 90 state-licensed poker rooms, the
review found."

As with most government programs, the tax payer can
shove it up their pipe if they expect to learn how their
money is being squandered:

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Serious question . . . How long does it take you to construct these posts?
 
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Serious question . . . How long does it take you to construct these posts?

More like how do the people that actually construct them on other websites feel about him stealing them?

And the record number of people on food stamps is probably directly caused by the high unemployment rate.
 
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More like how do the people that actually construct them on other websites feel about him stealing them?

And the record number of people on food stamps is probably directly caused by the high unemployment rate.

this is also the reason why revenues to the treasury are at record low levels, not the Bush tax cuts
 
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Is it any wonder that enrollment is up... (my highlighting)

The Safety Net - Once Stigmatized, Food Stamps Find New Acceptance - Series - NYTimes.com

excerpt:
Juan Diego Castro, 24, is a college graduate and Americorps volunteer whose immigrant parents warned him “not to be a burden on this country.” He has a monthly stipend of about $2,500 and initially thought food stamps should go to needier people, like the tenants he organizes. “My concern was if I’m taking food stamps and I have a job, is it morally correct?” he said.

But federal law eases eligibility for Americorps members, and a food bank worker urged him and fellow volunteers to apply, arguing that there was enough aid to go around and that use would demonstrate continuing need. “That meeting definitely turned us around,” Mr. Castro said.

or this one...

A decade ago, New York City officials were so reluctant to give out food stamps, they made people register one day and return the next just to get an application. The welfare commissioner said the program caused dependency and the poor were “better off” without it. Now the city urges the needy to seek aid (in languages from Albanian to Yiddish). Neighborhood groups recruit clients at churches and grocery stores, with materials that all but proclaim a civic duty to apply — to “help New York farmers, grocers, and businesses.” There is even a program on Rikers Island to enroll inmates leaving the jail. “Applying for food stamps is easier than ever,” city posters say. …These changes, combined with soaring unemployment, have pushed enrollment to record highs, with one in eight Americans now getting aid. “I’ve seen a remarkable shift,” said Senator Richard G. Lugar, an Indiana Republican and prominent food stamp supporter. “People now see that it’s necessary to have a strong food stamp program.” …The program has commercial allies, in farmers and grocery stores, and it got an unexpected boost from President George W. Bush, whose food stamp administrator, Eric Bost, proved an ardent supporter. “I assure you, food stamps is not welfare,” Mr. Bost said in a recent interview. Still, some critics see it as welfare in disguise and advocate more restraints. …The federal government now gives bonuses to states that enroll the most eligible people. …In 2008, the program got an upbeat new name: the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program — SNAP. …Since Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg took office eight years ago, the rolls have doubled, to 1.6 million people… Albany made a parallel push to enroll the working poor, setting an explicit goal for caseload growth. “This is all federal money — it drives dollars to local economies,” said Russell Sykes, a senior program official. But Mr. Turner, now a consultant in Milwaukee, warns that the aid encourages the poor to work less and therefore remain in need. “It’s going to be very difficult with large swaths of the lower middle class tasting the fruits of dependency to be weaned from this,” he said.
 
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Is it any wonder that enrollment is up... (my highlighting)

The Safety Net - Once Stigmatized, Food Stamps Find New Acceptance - Series - NYTimes.com

excerpt:
Juan Diego Castro, 24, is a college graduate and Americorps volunteer whose immigrant parents warned him “not to be a burden on this country.” He has a monthly stipend of about $2,500 and initially thought food stamps should go to needier people, like the tenants he organizes. “My concern was if I’m taking food stamps and I have a job, is it morally correct?” he said.

But federal law eases eligibility for Americorps members, and a food bank worker urged him and fellow volunteers to apply, arguing that there was enough aid to go around and that use would demonstrate continuing need. “That meeting definitely turned us around,” Mr. Castro said.

or this one...

A decade ago, New York City officials were so reluctant to give out food stamps, they made people register one day and return the next just to get an application. The welfare commissioner said the program caused dependency and the poor were “better off” without it. Now the city urges the needy to seek aid (in languages from Albanian to Yiddish). Neighborhood groups recruit clients at churches and grocery stores, with materials that all but proclaim a civic duty to apply — to “help New York farmers, grocers, and businesses.” There is even a program on Rikers Island to enroll inmates leaving the jail. “Applying for food stamps is easier than ever,” city posters say. …These changes, combined with soaring unemployment, have pushed enrollment to record highs, with one in eight Americans now getting aid. “I’ve seen a remarkable shift,” said Senator Richard G. Lugar, an Indiana Republican and prominent food stamp supporter. “People now see that it’s necessary to have a strong food stamp program.” …The program has commercial allies, in farmers and grocery stores, and it got an unexpected boost from President George W. Bush, whose food stamp administrator, Eric Bost, proved an ardent supporter. “I assure you, food stamps is not welfare,” Mr. Bost said in a recent interview. Still, some critics see it as welfare in disguise and advocate more restraints. …The federal government now gives bonuses to states that enroll the most eligible people. …In 2008, the program got an upbeat new name: the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program — SNAP. …Since Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg took office eight years ago, the rolls have doubled, to 1.6 million people… Albany made a parallel push to enroll the working poor, setting an explicit goal for caseload growth. “This is all federal money — it drives dollars to local economies,” said Russell Sykes, a senior program official. But Mr. Turner, now a consultant in Milwaukee, warns that the aid encourages the poor to work less and therefore remain in need. “It’s going to be very difficult with large swaths of the lower middle class tasting the fruits of dependency to be weaned from this,” he said.

Back in 2006 when I got my girlfriend (now my wife) pregnant we went to apply for Tenncare. I had a job and could afford to feed and house us but just couldn't afford medical benefits. At the Tenncare office I was offered foodstamps and declined. I was raised to only take what I needed and felt like we could make it without. I bet before we left I was offered foodstamps at least 15 times. It's like the guy wouldn't accept that I didn't need them. He actually laughed a few times like I was an idiot for not just taking it. So yeah there's no doubt it is encouraged.
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Over half of the USDA's yearly $45,000,000,000 budget goes towards food stamps and similar programs. It's absurd.
 
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Start drug testing for Welfare. Turn Welfare into "Workfare" and watch the numbers go way down. Imagine that, making people do something for that free money. Just another example of government failure.
 
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Start drug testing for Welfare. Turn Welfare into "Workfare" and watch the numbers go way down. Imagine that, making people do something for that free money. Just another example of government failure.

Qft, make some of these dirtbags come clean my gutters. I mean, I am pretty much paying them indirectly.
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Back in 2006 when I got my girlfriend (now my wife) pregnant we went to apply for Tenncare. I had a job and could afford to feed and house us but just couldn't afford medical benefits. At the Tenncare office I was offered foodstamps and declined. I was raised to only take what I needed and felt like we could make it without. I bet before we left I was offered foodstamps at least 15 times. It's like the guy wouldn't accept that I didn't need them. He actually laughed a few times like I was an idiot for not just taking it. So yeah there's no doubt it is encouraged.
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A guy I know who is well able to work for a living but instead decides to drink and do drugs and lose every job he gets is now on full welfare.

First he went and applied for food stamps and was accepted, in a week or so someone called and said; "I notice you served six years in prison for killing your daddy."

He though the jig was up and they were going to kick him off food stamps but replied in the affirmative.

Instead the social worker said; "we think you qualify for a mental disability, would you like to apply?"

He said yes, they sent him a form that was already filled out, all he had to do was sign and the next month started receiving $900 in addition to other welfare including food stamps he was already getting.

Now we have this Orwelian pronouncement from the Obama administration.

Obama Ag Secretary: More People On Food Stamps Means More Jobs | MRCTV

Tom Vilsack, President Obama's Secretary of Agriculture, appeared on MSNBC and said that foodstamps are putting people to work and are acting as an 'economic stimulus'.
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"Well, obviously, it's putting people to work. Which is why we're going to have some interesting things in the course of the forum this morning. Later this morning, we're going have a press conference with Secretary Mavis and Secretary Chu to announce something that's never happened in this country -- something that we think is exciting in terms of job growth. I should point out, when you talk about the SNAP program or the food stamp program, you have to recognize that it's also an economic stimulus. Every dollar of SNAP benefits generates $1.84 in the economy in terms of economic activity. If people are able to buy a little more in the grocery store, someone has to stock it, package it, shelve it, process it, ship it. All of those are jobs. It's the most direct stimulus you can get in the economy during these tough times."

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There's also a record number of millionaires in America and the disparity between the rich and poor continues to grow.

Guess which direction the middle class is being pushed?
 
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There's also a record number of millionaires in America and the disparity between the rich and poor continues to grow.

Guess which direction the middle class is being pushed?

Something to think about:

Joe and Mark work for the same company. Mark makes $2,000,000 a year. Joe makes $20,000 a year. The company has a really good year. Joe gets a 50% pay raise. Mark gets a 5% pay raise.

Who benefited the most?

At the beginning, Mark was making $1,980,000 more than Joe. At the end Mark was making $2070000 more than Joe. The gap widened, even though proportionately, Joe got a better raise.

Is it possible that things are historically getting better for everyone and identifying who is getting the most benefit is a bit more complicated than simply looking at the income disparity?
 
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Something to think about:

Joe and Mark work for the same company. Mark makes $2,000,000 a year. Joe makes $20,000 a year. The company has a really good year. Joe gets a 50% pay raise. Mark gets a 5% pay raise.

Who benefited the most?

At the beginning, Mark was making $1,980,000 more than Joe. At the end Mark was making $2070000 more than Joe. The gap widened, even though proportionately, Joe got a better raise.

Is it possible that things are historically getting better for everyone and identifying who is getting the most benefit is a bit more complicated than simply looking at the income disparity?

These simplistic mathematical analogies are not only trivial, but the one above has absolutely no relation to the real world outside the back door.

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Just to use the most obvious example.

Moreover, people are relatively better off thanks to the gifts of the Enlightenment not thanks to a polarized economy. Numerous studies and real world examples exist of how Third World countries have bridged the health and well-being gap without G8, polarized economies. In fact, the usual common denominator in these success stories has been the lack of (relative) polarization in these economies and the fact that simple things gleaned from the Enlightenment go a long way to improving lives.

Finally, we can look at more real world examples outside the back door - like the demodernization of a former super-power. We discovered that switching to the neoliberal model drove every health metric in Russia down, has yet to recover to Communist levels (either economically or health), and placed the population the size of England into real poverty to the point where they are nostalgic for Brezhnev, and quotes like "do not discuss the 21st century. Here, it is the 19th" are commonplace. Meanwhile, Moscow has more billionaires than any other city, and the GINI index is out of this world. It took Putin renationalizing oil and gas to arrest the demodernization.

So, it is exactly wealth polarization which denies the free and easy gifts of the Enlightenment to most of humankind.

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stories like this gives dems chubbies.........look at how many people we are helping....no fool helping would be having a job!
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stories like this gives dems chubbies.........look at how many people we are helping....no fool helping would be having a job!
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Neoliberalism demands unemployment.

The 20th century was replete with full employment economies, but you hate these economies, even the G8 ones like the Wirtschaftwunder and Les Trente Glorieuses and Atlee. To say nothing of the Communist ones.
 
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Something to think about:

Joe and Mark work for the same company. Mark makes $2,000,000 a year. Joe makes $20,000 a year. The company has a really good year. Joe gets a 50% pay raise. Mark gets a 5% pay raise.

Who benefited the most?

At the beginning, Mark was making $1,980,000 more than Joe. At the end Mark was making $2070000 more than Joe. The gap widened, even though proportionately, Joe got a better raise.

Is it possible that things are historically getting better for everyone and identifying who is getting the most benefit is a bit more complicated than simply looking at the income disparity?

I'll see your hypothetical and raise it with a far more likely hypothetical scenario.

Your conclusion is flawed in that Joe would not receive a 50% pay raise. Mark would lay Joe off and outsource his job overseas. So instead of Mark taking a paltry 5% pay raise he'd fold Joe's future earnings into the company's bottom line and increase his base salary proportionately.
 
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I'll see your hypothetical and raise it with a far more likely hypothetical scenario.

Your conclusion is flawed in that Joe would not receive a 50% pay raise. Mark would lay Joe off and outsource his job overseas. So instead of Mark taking a paltry 5% pay raise he'd fold Joe's future earnings into the company's bottom line and increase his base salary proportionately.

in your scenario Joe should find a more marketable skill
 
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Obama now says his failures are just plain bad luck.

He claims he will come up with a 'jobs' bill just afterr
Labor day.

If he had any answers, why didn't he present them
a coupld of years ago?

More empty rhetoric.

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