Recruiting Football Talk VII

[HoleInTheRoof]

Is that jrodbygod guy still on Twitter?


Can we get him and Andy to fight to the death this week?

 

[BigSteve09]

Thanks to those who discussed Band of Brothers last week. I watched it over the past couple days and really touched by what I saw. I wish more people would watch it to understand the sacrifice that was laid out for the liberties and freedoms we enjoy today.

I have seen other WWII movies, but curious on other shows that center around D Day and the march to Berlin. Thanks !

I love the Operations Room YouTube channel for battle overviews

They do a great job across all wars/engagements, but they've got some good WW2 ones to add context to shows like BOB:

 

[Orange.]

.... It’d be so Tennessee ....

I think you should remove that phrase from your vocabulary. If you consider it, it posits an equivalence between our best and worst coaches. It made sense when we were on a streak of bad hires, since they all sucked; and the humor helped us through the disasters.

And here's a Lube U photo or two for you. Because I know how much you love them.

 

[volbeast33]

Don't stop believin..

What is your theory on what he would have against us versus Kentucky/Missouri or teams like that?

 

[SpringBokVol]

now do Josh Heupel vs Jeremy Pruitt?????

 

[Govolsman98]

now do Josh Heupel vs Jeremy Pruitt?????

23-10 vs 15-18

 

[Jackcrevol]

Don't stop believing...

if its fixed? then what's the point?

people out there literally putting their bodies on the line so some fat white dude in a C Suite can get that much fatter.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Why would Kentucky get any whistles against us? If it's the SEC trying to uphold the hierarchy, then we would get the whistles.

Because they know KY will never be a threat. The more they hurt Tennessee the more it benefits their established hierarchy.

Tennessee loses against the likes of Mizzou and KY, it keeps them in the slurry of everyone else in the SECE. Recruiting is affected as well. They despise a powerful Tennessee.

 

[therickbol]

No it's by far the most effective play in football. No other play comes close to its level of effectiveness. It works close to 90% of the time.

We also QB snuck it several times last year and we ran out of center multiple times.

We did both against Virginia. The sneak worked, of course.

Why we haven't done it since is beyond all reason.

I am not saying it is not effective. But that research needs to be more disaggregated to be more accurate. What is the success rate when there is a gap in talent on the OL/DL? We will hopefully get to a point where less creativity is required in a 4th and 1 sneek situation. We can just bully for 1 yard without hesitation. And we can against most teams we play. I am not completely sold that we can just bully interior DL of the best teams we play right now. Still doesn't mean that we can't try it. What I think is obvious is that the coaches who judge such things do not have a great deal of confidence that we we can do that vs a DL like Alabama has right now.

 

[UTSuave’]

I missed the first quarter Saturday and rewatched it last night

If Joe Milton can bottle that up and play like that for four quarters, we won’t lose another game this year

Like many have stated in here before…joe using his legs to extend plays keeps the defense honest and opens up the play book..that was the difference in the first half and it was the difference with hendon..we kept defenses off balance all last year and we kept Alabama guessing the whole first half then we just quit…it makes zero sense to me.joe loves the contact obviously so let him have it.this gives joe a better feel for the game in my opinion…

if joe is given the same green light like they gave Hendon we’re undefeated plain and simple. Opponents know we have a 3 headed monster at RB so loading the box forcing joe to beat them in the passing game is the clear game plan weekly.Josh is just going to have to bite the bullet and trust joe a little more that also includes taking it himself if it gets us a first down to extend the drive.

 

[volbeast33]

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Why would Kentucky get any whistles against us? If it's the SEC trying to uphold the hierarchy, then we would get the whistles.

Go re-read what LAVol posted. For some reason we aren’t in the good graces of those in power (I guess because our players were taking money instead of killing people).

 

[VolInDayton]

now do Josh Heupel vs Jeremy Pruitt?????

Lyle was 16-17

 

[volbeast33]

Because they know KY will never be a threat. The more they hurt Tennessee the more it benefits their established hierarchy.

Tennessee loses against the Luke's of Mizzou and KY, it keeps them in the slurry of everyone else in the SECE. Recruiting is affected as well. They despise a powerful Tennessee.

why does Sankey care about the established hierarchy besides what can benefit the league financially?

 

[Nash_Vol97]

There are many of y'all who trust AI even less than the humans you believe are against us, but AI would be the ideal tool to expose bias in officiating. I would like to see somebody put together a tool for evaluating officiating. I'm sure it's possible, and it would be impossible to ignore if it found such. Could explore not consistent application of standards, but also determine whether there was a pattern of penalties affecting the outcome more or less often.

I had almost this same thought Saturday night. I know SEC “evaluates” their refs each week but we know that doesn’t mean anything and unconscious bias still has an influence in that. I’d love to see an independent source put something like this into effect and have the results public. Pro Football reference does something like this for the NFL where they have each ref, their calls and stats and how it compares to the league average. The problem is it’s not granular and specific enough to be able to evaluate anything further. At least in the public facing data.

 

[UTSuave’]

Oh dear!..PTSD why did you do this to the forum

 

[BigSteve09]

if its fixed? then what's the point?

people out there literally putting their bodies on the line so some fat white dude in a C Suite can get that much fatter.

well now this conversation is getting a little bit bigger than football

 

[volbeast33]

I had almost this same thought Saturday night. I know SEC “evaluates” their refs each week but we know that doesn’t mean anything and unconscious bias still has an influence in that. I’d love to see an independent source put something like this into effect and have the results public. Pro Football reference does something like this for the NFL where they have each ref, their calls and stats and how it compares to the league average. The problem is it’s not granular and specific enough to be able to evaluate anything further. At least in the public facing data.

They do it for MLB.

 

[BigOrange15]

Because they know KY will never be a threat. The more they hurt Tennessee the more it benefits their established hierarchy.

Tennessee loses against the Luke's of Mizzou and KY, it keeps them in the slurry of everyone else in the SECE. Recruiting is affected as well. They despise a powerful Tennessee.

I still don't get why you would despise Tennessee if you are the SEC though. We are one of the biggest brands, with the largest fanbases, and we make probably Top 3 money in the conference.

 

[BigOrange15]

Go re-read what LAVol posted. For some reason we aren’t in the good graces of those in power (I guess because our players were taking money instead of killing people).

Yeah, Ive seen it and I believe it. Seems though like that would take backseat to the potential money a powerful Tennessee would bring in, which would be significant. If you are good at business, you put beef aside to make more money and the SEC is good at business.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

why does Sankey care about the established hierarchy besides what can benefit the league financially?

Because the established hierarch has put millions in his pockets and he wants more.
TN in the East and LSU in the West are the two biggest threats to status quo.
Gotta keep both programs treading water so the SEC can get 1 team minimum in the playoffs and 2 when the chips fall that way. Everyone is supposed to play second fiddle behind the main 2.

 

[Jackcrevol]

well now this conversation is getting a little bit bigger than football

I coulda left some of that out. But this is how I envision Sankey-pankey.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Like many have stated in here before…joe using his legs to extend plays keeps the defense honest and opens up the play book..that was the difference in the first half and it was the difference with hendon..we kept defenses off balance all last year and we kept Alabama guessing the whole first half then we just quit…it makes zero sense to me.joe loves the contact obviously so let him have it.this gives joe a better feel for the game in my opinion…

if joe is given the same green light like they gave Hendon we’re undefeated plain and simple. Opponents know we have a 3 headed monster at RB so loading the box forcing joe to beat them in the passing game is the clear game plan weekly.Josh is just going to have to bite the bullet and trust joe a little more that also includes taking it himself if it gets us a first down to extend the drive.

My hope is from now on we run Joe like we did Saturday. If he keeps taking off like that and picking up big chunks then we will destroy Kentucky, because they aren't stopping our running backs.

Play calling and the officials really took us out of the game Saturday. It still feels like we figured some stuff out. Yes we need to see it again, but I'm not that worried about beating UK now.

 

[volbeast33]

I still don't get why you would despise Tennessee if you are the SEC though. We are one of the biggest brands, with the largest fanbases, and we make probably Top 3 money in the conference.

Sankey is not from the South anyways…. Where does all this bias come from if not motivated by money.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I still don't get why you would despise Tennessee if you are the SEC though. We are one of the biggest brands, with the largest fanbases, and we make probably Top 3 money in the conference.

Burning mastresses when Kiffin left, axing the Schiano hire, throwing things against Ole Miss, the 2021 baseball team shenanigans, the AA investigation with Pruitt, Pearl and his BBQ. We aren't lap dogs that just lie down and take things and the powers that be don't like that.