recruiting for shooters?

[UneducatedGuess]

Over the past month as our fanbase has gone into meltdown mode, a reference that continues to come up is "we haven't had a pure shooter since lofton"

I certainly am not debating this. However I will raise this question, is Bruce trying to establish a system that features a pure shooter?

Ill go further. Would Bruce pearl have recruited Chris lofton?

If you look at our offense and our players it seems obvious we look for scorers with length who can run. The system is not built to shoot. Pearl had lofton thanks to buzz. Bruce scrambled to keep him. Looking at our team now, I cannot confidently say we are built to operate as we did years back.

For this team to score they must run. However we allow our opponents to dictate pace. This team is dangerous when moving and finishing near the basket however there are no weapons to consistently execute in the half court.

We should tone our high scoring expectations down until we start creating turnovers and finishing around the rim.

 

[BasketvolsFan]

Over the past month as our fanbase has gone into meltdown mode, a reference that continues to come up is "we haven't had a pure shooter since lofton"

I certainly am not debating this. However I will raise this question, is Bruce trying to establish a system that features a pure shooter?

Ill go further. Would Bruce pearl have recruited Chris lofton?

If you look at our offense and our players it seems obvious we look for scorers with length who can run. The system is not built to shoot. Pearl had lofton thanks to buzz. Bruce scrambled to keep him. Looking at our team now, I cannot confidently say we are built to operate as we did years back.

For this team to score they must run. However we allow our opponents to dictate pace. This team is dangerous when moving and finishing near the basket however there are no weapons to consistently execute in the half court.

We should tone our high scoring expectations down until we start creating turnovers and finishing around the rim.

Actually our offense is well suited for the 3-point shot. Our zone offense basically relies totally on the 3-point shot. Unfortunate that our great outside shooters can only hit 25--30% from that range.

 

[eyebleedorange]

Actually our offense is well suited for the 3-point shot. Our zone offense basically relies totally on the 3-point shot. Unfortunate that our great outside shooters can only hit 25--30% from that range.

Exactly. 3pt. shots are almost always good looks if we execute the offense correctly. We just don't have anybody that can knock them down consistently.

 

[volroadwarrior]

We can't shoot 3 pointers and we even miss a lot of layups. Teams can safely bunch up the inside and dare us take outside shots. While they are in there, they can block or make us hurry our shots and let their 6-3 guys out rebound our 6-10 guys. They don't fear fouling Williams and our other big guys because we will at most get 1 out of 2 free throws. We have to find someone who can put the ball in the hole or find guys who play ferocious defense so we can win by scoring 50 points a game.

 

[UneducatedGuess]

I should have clarified "personnel". I'm not aware of one person brought in who was known as a "shooter".

Scholarship player. Not walk on the scholarship.

Which brings me back - would pearl have recruited lofton?

 

[Hardwood_fanatic]

Over the past month as our fanbase has gone into meltdown mode, a reference that continues to come up is "we haven't had a pure shooter since lofton"

I certainly am not debating this. However I will raise this question, is Bruce trying to establish a system that features a pure shooter?

Ill go further. Would Bruce pearl have recruited Chris lofton?

If you look at our offense and our players it seems obvious we look for scorers with length who can run. The system is not built to shoot. Pearl had lofton thanks to buzz. Bruce scrambled to keep him. Looking at our team now, I cannot confidently say we are built to operate as we did years back. For this team to score they must run. However we allow our opponents to dictate pace. This team is dangerous when moving and finishing near the basket however there are no weapons to consistently execute in the half court.

We should tone our high scoring expectations down until we start creating turnovers and finishing around the rim.

Here's the flaw. To succeed with a team that is built mainly on slashing the lane and getting to the rim, you have to have ample space on the floor to do so in a halfcourt setting. If you do not have at least 1, preferrably 2 good shooters on the perimeter to stretch the defense, teams will begin to play a sagging man to man or zone, and cut off your entries to the lane, forcing you to pass the ball 15 times then shoot from the perimeter.

You can only get so many fast break points, and they are not always enough to make up for the lack of halfcourt scoring. WVU taught UK this lesson last year in the elite 8. Pearl would gladly accept a Doron Lamb type player on his roster with open arms.

 

[JZVOL]

Over the past month as our fanbase has gone into meltdown mode, a reference that continues to come up is "we haven't had a pure shooter since lofton"

I certainly am not debating this. However I will raise this question, is Bruce trying to establish a system that features a pure shooter?

Ill go further. Would Bruce pearl have recruited Chris lofton?

If you look at our offense and our players it seems obvious we look for scorers with length who can run. The system is not built to shoot. Pearl had lofton thanks to buzz. Bruce scrambled to keep him. Looking at our team now, I cannot confidently say we are built to operate as we did years back.

For this team to score they must run. However we allow our opponents to dictate pace. This team is dangerous when moving and finishing near the basket however there are no weapons to consistently execute in the half court.

We should tone our high scoring expectations down until we start creating turnovers and finishing around the rim.

I get what you are saying, but any system that isn't "built to shoot" is the worst system of all time.

We run the same system on offense for the most part but Lofton bailed us out when the shot clock was running out.

And I think you are correct in saying Bruce wouldn't have recruited Lofton.

 

[JZVOL]

Here's the flaw. To succeed with a team that is built mainly on slashing the lane and getting to the rim, you have to have ample space on the floor to do so in a halfcourt setting. If you do not have at least 1, preferrably 2 good shooters on the perimeter to stretch the defense, teams will begin to play a sagging man to man or zone, and cut off your entries to the lane, forcing you to pass the ball 15 times then shoot from the perimeter.

You can only get so many fast break points, and they are not always enough to make up for the lack of halfcourt scoring. WVU taught UK this lesson last year in the elite 8. Pearl would gladly accept a Doron Lamb type player on his roster with open arms.

Truth. Vance Walberg has actually criticized Cal in his recruiting because the AASAA or dribble-drive offense needs an outside shooter or two for spacing and Cal hasn't recruited enough shooters in the past.

 

[footvoltime12]

i agree with you that pearl wouldn't have recruited lofton who was pure from 3 but isn't the long run and jump athletes he's brought in since he's been here. that being said there's no rule that says because you run on offense you can't make three's. we're just not shooting consistently.

 

[papatomany]

I should have clarified "personnel". I'm not aware of one person brought in who was known as a "shooter".

Scholarship player. Not walk on the scholarship.

Which brings me back - would pearl have recruited lofton?

No. He would not have recruited Lofton. He seems to think that you can coach shooting (which hasn't proved true for this staff at least), but you can't coach what is usually referred to as "athletic ability" (which seems to include jumping well and quickness with the ball, but apparently does not include having a knack for where a rebound might come off, defensive positioning, great hands, seeing the court well, etc.).