Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[delfonic]

U big mad bro

Butchna's natural state as big mad. He lashes out and tries to say the most hurtful thing he can think of (that we aren't Vol fans.) It's a cycle.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Precisely. Look at the data.

5x Champion vs 3x Champion
12x All Defensive vs 6x All Defensive
2x Scoring Champ vs 1x Scoring Champ

Lebron's going to have a ton of stats or "data" when he hangs it up, dude's already got 59 more starts than Kobe had. He's gonna approach Jabbar levels in totals if he plays 2 or 3 more full seasons. Both great players, I just think Lebron's sheer volume of time on court and being the focal point of his team's entire game plan regardless of which team he's playing for contributes to his stat padding a bit.

 

[butchna]

All the data I have presented are cold hard facts. You are the one that started this by saying MJ is the better passer. Where is your data? Or is data interpretation a one-way street?

Where did I say he was the better passer? In FACT I said Lebron was more gifted and utilized it in clutch situations...that’s when you descended from Knowledge Heaven. Try checking YOURS, otherwise you’ll come across as a gassy blowhard.

 

[delfonic]

So you admit MJ is the GOAT.

Columbo, you are not.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

They are more efficient scorers. I never said anything about being the GOAT. Reading comprehension is your friend.

Although, prime Shaq is the most dominant player I've ever watched.

Ohhhhh....you're one of -those- trolls.

 

[butchna]

Butchna's natural state as big mad. He lashes out and tries to say the most hurtful thing he can think of (that we aren't Vol fans.) It's a cycle.

I can’t recall enough of your posts to render an opinion on your fandom. I just know that the resident UGA troll is egging you on and UTkevDAWG liked your post. Ducks and ponds and stuff.

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

5x Champion vs 3x Champion
12x All Defensive vs 6x All Defensive
2x Scoring Champ vs 1x Scoring Champ

Lebron's going to have a ton of stats or "data" when he hangs it up, dude's already got 59 more starts than Kobe had. He's gonna approach Jabbar levels in totals if he plays 2 or 3 more full seasons. Both great players, I just think Lebron's sheer volume of time on court and being the focal point of his team's entire game plan regardless of which team he's playing for contributes to his stat padding a bit.

Kobe career PER is 22.90, LBJ is 27.51... not even close, buddy. LBJ is better at almost every facet of od the game than Kobe.

Kobe is better at having the GOAT coach and prime Shaq on his team though.

 

[butchna]

Ohhhhh....you're one of -those- trolls.

He’s smarter than you’re capable of comprehending. If you don’t believe him...ask him.

 

[jakez4ut]

You are wasting your time.

I'm all about having a discussion with different opions, but with him, you can count on name calling, a condescending tone, and he likes to use words that he thinks makes him look smarter.

as opposed to.......?

 

[delfonic]

I can’t recall enough of your posts to render an opinion on your fandom. I just know that the resident UGA troll is egging you on and UTkevDAWG liked your post. Ducks and ponds and stuff.

This is a Tennessee forum, so that should score a couple points for me. Unless you are just a cynical, old windbag...

 

[Sleegro]

All the data I have presented are cold hard facts. You are the one that started this by saying MJ is the better passer. Where is your data? Or is data interpretation a one-way street?

I believe the poll was about passing ability not assist numbers. It is a very valid argument that Jordan had better passing abilities based on watching how they both saw the floor, the accuracy when they passed and how they set up passing lanes in traffic while ignoring the numbers. As far as scoring efficiency, that is very skewed by the fact that back then the 3 point shot was not part of many game plans. And Jordan scored more per game without it. Which is more impressive.

 

[Orangeredblooded]

Where did I say he was the better passer? In FACT I said Lebron was more gifted and utilized it in clutch situations...that’s when you descended from Knowledge Heaven. Try checking YOURS, otherwise you’ll come across as a gassy blowhard.

Too late, he already qualifies.

 

[jakez4ut]

Kobe career PER is 22.90, LBJ is 27.51... not even close, buddy. LBJ is better at almost every facet of od the game than Kobe.

Kobe is better at having the GOAT coach and prime Shaq on his team though.

too bad LJ didn't go find better teammates to play with huh?

oh, wait...................

 

[Glitch]

Sub Tim Duncan for Robinson. I’d have Lebron #2 tbh but I wouldn’t have you committed for generating this list...just the dead hookers.

Lebron could definitely fit anywhere on that list except #1. I could also have Tim Duncan instead of Robinson. I could have also thrown Reggie Miller in as well for his three point %.

 

[butchna]

"isn't close"?

like, not worthy of conversation?

eh....

Conversations with plebes are so taxing.

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

He’s smarter than you’re capable of comprehending. If you don’t believe him...ask him.

Your MJ insecurities are bleeding into your intellectual insecurities.

 

[delfonic]

Lebron could definitely fit anywhere on that list except #1. I could also have Tim Duncan instead of Robinson. I could have also thrown Reggie Miller in as well for his three point %.

Reggie Miller? Naw.

 

[vols 30]

This is a Tennessee forum, so that should score a couple points for me. Unless you are just a cynical, old windbag...

I'd go with the Cynical, old windbag

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I respect Lebron and he's great, but I've never seen a player given more benefit of the doubt than I have Lebron. It's like watching Kentucky play at home any time I see him play, regardless of what team he's on or who he's playing. When you're 6'8" and 260 with his speed you really don't need the benefit of being allowed to bulldoze into the lane at will and getting extra steps.


It's almost like the NBA powers that be said "this is our bell cow now, he wins and we profit"

 

[butchna]

not sure how i should feel about this.....

“Feel”? Tells me all I need to know.

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

too bad LJ didn't go find better teammates to play with huh?

oh, wait...................

LBJ averages more pts, assists, rebounds, and steals per game, all while shooting a higher % from the field in both the regular season and postseason. Only a fool would think Kobe was a better bball player than LeBron.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Myth. Jordan didn't put up the assist numbers bron does but wasn't all that far off. And you can't deny his court vision and ability to put the ball on the money from any angle looking any direction in any amount of traffic was among the best ever for passers. The way he set up passing lanes was a thing of beauty.

Okay I take it back. Jordan is a better passer too. He wins every category

 

[butchna]

Your MJ insecurities are bleeding into your intellectual insecurities.

Just diarrhea it out and pretend it’s science. Anybody can do it!

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

I respect Lebron and he's great, but I've never seen a player given more benefit of the doubt than I have Lebron. It's like watching Kentucky play at home any time I see him play, regardless of what team he's on or who he's playing. When you're 6'8" and 260 with his speed you really don't need the benefit of being allowed to bulldoze into the lane at will and getting extra steps.


It's almost like the NBA power's that be said "this is our bell cow now, he wins and we profit"

Lol. How many NBA games do you all watch? It seems like a big old ZERO for most of you.

Dude is 6'9" 250 lbs. Fouls could be called every time he drives, but he is/was so fast and strong that contact doesn't affect him as much as it does most NBA players. Same with Shaq.

 

[RikidyBones]

Lol. Kobe isn't close to as good of a bball players as LBJ.

lol what?!?