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unfrozencvmanvol said:
We are WAY more underachieving than anyone. It's not close.

Consider this, the 247 talent composite has been around since 2015, during that time, we have the following results versus our talent ranking:

UT

2015, # 12, 9-4, W Outback, 22 AP/22 coaches
2016, # 14, 9-4, W Music City, 22 AP, 24 coaches
2017, # 12, 4-8, no bowl, unranked
2018, # 15, 5-7, no bowl, unranked
2019, # 16, 8-5, W Gator, unranked
2020, # 15, 3-7, bowl cancelled, unranked

Here is UGA, Bama, LSU, UF and the Barn:

UGA

2015, # 6, 10-3, W Gator, 24 coaches
2016, # 6, 8-5, W Liberty, unranked
2017, # 4, 13-2, W Rose, W SEC, L NC, 2 AP/2 coaches
2018, # 3 11-3, L Sugar, 7 AP/8 coaches
2019, # 3 12-2, W Sugar, 4 AP/4 coaches
2020, # 1 8-2, W Peach, 7 AP/7 coaches

BAMA

2015, # 1, 14-1, W Cotton, W SEC, W NC, 1 AP/1 coaches
2016, # 1, 14-1, W Peach, W SEC, L NC, 2 AP/2 coaches
2017, # 1, 13-1, W Sugar, W NC, 1 AP/1 coaches
2018, # 2, 14-1, W Orange, W SEC, L NC, 2 AP/2 coaches
2019, # 1, 11-2, W Citrus, 8 AP/8 coaches
2020, # 2, 13-0, W Rose, W SEC, W NC, 1 AP/1 coaches

LSU

2015, # 5, 9-3, W Texas, 16 AP/17 coaches
2016, # 3, 8-4, W Citrus, 13 AP/14 coaches
2017, # 6, 9-4, L Citrus, 18 AP/18 coaches
2018, # 7, 10-3, W Fiesta, 6 AP, 7 coaches
2019, # 5, 15-0, W Peach, W SEC, W NC, 1 AP/1 coaches
2020, # 6, 5-5, no bowl, unranked

UF

2015, # 15, 10-4, L Citrus, 25 AP/25 coaches
2016, # 16, 9-4, W Outback, 14 AP/13 coaches
2017, # 17, 4-7, no bowl, unranked
2018, # 12, 10-3, W Peach, 7 AP/6 coaches
2019, # 15, 11-2, W Orange, 6 AP/7 coaches
2020, # 7, 8-4, L Cotton, 13 AP/12 coaches

AUB

2015, # 7, 7-6, W Birmingham, unranked
2016, # 7, 8-5, L Sugar, 24 AP/22 coaches
2017, # 8, 10-4, L Peach, 10 AP, 12 coaches
2018, # 14, 8-5, W Music City, unranked
2019, # 13, 9-4, L Outback, 14 AP/14 coaches
2020, # 14, 6-5, L Citrus, unranked
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Just what we need. Fans carrying banners for our rivals and reminding us how bad we suck. In before the truth hurts, blah blah blah
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Lol. The people who repeat this look dumb. It’s like when people talked about Miles underachieving at LSU. There is one reason both of those coaches don’t have multiple NCs. And that’s Nick Saban. If Saban never came to Bama, Miles would have won at least 3-4 NCs. Take out Saban and Smart likely has 2 by now.

But yeah keep ragging on a team that wins 10-11 games a year, wins the East almost every year and makes it to a NY6 bowl.
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And here it is again.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Lol. The people who repeat this look dumb. It’s like when people talked about Miles underachieving at LSU. There is one reason both of those coaches don’t have multiple NCs. And that’s Nick Saban. If Saban never came to Bama, Miles would have won at least 3-4 NCs. Take out Saban and Smart likely has 2 by now.

But yeah keep ragging on a team that wins 10-11 games a year, wins the East almost every year and makes it to a NY6 bowl.
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If saban never came to LSU..... miles would not have been successful there.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Lol. The people who repeat this look dumb. It’s like when people talked about Miles underachieving at LSU. There is one reason both of those coaches don’t have multiple NCs. And that’s Nick Saban. If Saban never came to Bama, Miles would have won at least 3-4 NCs. Take out Saban and Smart likely has 2 by now.

But yeah keep ragging on a team that wins 10-11 games a year, wins the East almost every year and makes it to a NY6 bowl.
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Richt would still have a job if not for Saban too.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
We are WAY more underachieving than anyone. It's not close.

Consider this, the 247 talent composite has been around since 2015, during that time, we have the following results versus our talent ranking:

UT

2015, # 12, 9-4, W Outback, 22 AP/22 coaches
2016, # 14, 9-4, W Music City, 22 AP, 24 coaches
2017, # 12, 4-8, no bowl, unranked
2018, # 15, 5-7, no bowl, unranked
2019, # 16, 8-5, W Gator, unranked
2020, # 15, 3-7, bowl cancelled, unranked

Here is UGA, Bama, LSU, UF and the Barn:

UGA

2015, # 6, 10-3, W Gator, 24 coaches
2016, # 6, 8-5, W Liberty, unranked
2017, # 4, 13-2, W Rose, W SEC, L NC, 2 AP/2 coaches
2018, # 3 11-3, L Sugar, 7 AP/8 coaches
2019, # 3 12-2, W Sugar, 4 AP/4 coaches
2020, # 1 8-2, W Peach, 7 AP/7 coaches

BAMA

2015, # 1, 14-1, W Cotton, W SEC, W NC, 1 AP/1 coaches
2016, # 1, 14-1, W Peach, W SEC, L NC, 2 AP/2 coaches
2017, # 1, 13-1, W Sugar, W NC, 1 AP/1 coaches
2018, # 2, 14-1, W Orange, W SEC, L NC, 2 AP/2 coaches
2019, # 1, 11-2, W Citrus, 8 AP/8 coaches
2020, # 2, 13-0, W Rose, W SEC, W NC, 1 AP/1 coaches

LSU

2015, # 5, 9-3, W Texas, 16 AP/17 coaches
2016, # 3, 8-4, W Citrus, 13 AP/14 coaches
2017, # 6, 9-4, L Citrus, 18 AP/18 coaches
2018, # 7, 10-3, W Fiesta, 6 AP, 7 coaches
2019, # 5, 15-0, W Peach, W SEC, W NC, 1 AP/1 coaches
2020, # 6, 5-5, no bowl, unranked

UF

2015, # 15, 10-4, L Citrus, 25 AP/25 coaches
2016, # 16, 9-4, W Outback, 14 AP/13 coaches
2017, # 17, 4-7, no bowl, unranked
2018, # 12, 10-3, W Peach, 7 AP/6 coaches
2019, # 15, 11-2, W Orange, 6 AP/7 coaches
2020, # 7, 8-4, L Cotton, 13 AP/12 coaches

AUB

2015, # 7, 7-6, W Birmingham, unranked
2016, # 7, 8-5, L Sugar, 24 AP/22 coaches
2017, # 8, 10-4, L Peach, 10 AP, 12 coaches
2018, # 14, 8-5, W Music City, unranked
2019, # 13, 9-4, L Outback, 14 AP/14 coaches
2020, # 14, 6-5, L Citrus, unranked
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Lol. The people who repeat this look dumb. It’s like when people talked about Miles underachieving at LSU. There is one reason both of those coaches don’t have multiple NCs. And that’s Nick Saban. If Saban never came to Bama, Miles would have won at least 3-4 NCs. Take out Saban and Smart likely has 2 by now.

But yeah keep ragging on a team that wins 10-11 games a year, wins the East almost every year and makes it to a NY6 bowl.
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BigOrangeTrain said:
People knocking UGA for “underachieving” are dumb.
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A math and history lesson for those who seem, what is it?, too "dumb" to do math, and research history...Train calling ANYONE dumb drips of irony, and is downright laughable; but, I digress...a math lesson, along with some history...

First off, comparing UGA to UT right now doesn't even deserve a response. Saying we underachieve more, based on recruiting (still shaking my head at that one), shows a lack of knowing anything.

The last 10 years...
Recruiting ranking for UGA:
21:4
20:1
19:2
18:1
17:3
16:6
15:6
14:8
13:12
12:9

For those too "dumb" to average, that puts UGA at an average class of 5.2...Top 5 in recruiting...in the nation, in one of the top 4 talent rich states in the entire country.

For ALLLLLLL of that talent over the last 10 yrs, they have to show for it: 4 Eastern Division Championships...1, yes, 1, whole SEC Championship...and, as we all know and love ZERO National Championships.

Over those 10 years, they have averaged 10 wins a season, meaning they lose at least 2 games a year. Again...with ALLLLLLLLL THAT TALENT.

Train and frozen, you two deserve each other. Walk hand in hand to the first math class, then proceed to history.
 
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jave36 said:
Richt would still have a job if not for Saban too.
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Smart might NOT have a job but for Saban.

And the truth is, Mark Richt was fired because UGA wanted someone to take them to the next level. Has Smart taken them to the next level? I don't think so. I think Smart recruits better than Richt (which is also a by-product of UT being so bad), but he gets similar results. So when compared with Richt, Smart gets about the same with more. At least thus far.

And this isn't about UT. We know we're bad right now. We know we've hired loser after loser to be our HC for over a decade, and we're hoping we've finally landed an eventual winner. We know where we stand. That doesn't mean we can't point out that UGA hasn't reached that mountain top they thought Smart would get them too.
 
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Weezer said:
Smart might NOT have a job but for Saban.

And the truth is, Mark Richt was fired because UGA wanted someone to take them to the next level. Has Smart taken them to the next level? I don't think so. I think Smart recruits better than Richt (which is also a by-product of UT being so bad), but he gets similar results. So when compared with Richt, Smart gets about the same with more. At least thus far.

And this isn't about UT. We know we're bad right now. We know we've hired loser after loser to be our HC for over a decade, and we're hoping we've finally landed an eventual winner. We know where we stand. That doesn't mean we can't point out that UGA hasn't reached that mountain top they thought Smart would get them too.
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They still think Smart will get them there. Well not all of them, some see Richt 2.0
 
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UGA average team talent ranking past 10 years: 5th
UGA record past 10 years: 102-31
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UT average team talent ranking past 10 years: 15th
UT record past 10 years: 60-62

Tennessee is the bigger under achiever.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
Not sure what crazy world we are living in, but C. Jenner just said it’s unfair for transgendered girls to compete in girls sports.

Didn’t see that coming.
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Transgendered girl. . . is that a boy who thinks they're a girl, competing against girls, or is that a girl who thinks they're a guy?
 
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