Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[tnvols72]

Just caught up and saw Catbone’s Publix Hell in a Cell match with the crazy old bastard

For all we know Cat was the crazy old B.

 

[scienceteaching_vol]

Happy Friday Folks! Its been a long week! Vol football is just around the corner!

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

The longer this goes on, and the more and more money players get paid, the more I feel certain that they'll eventuality try to cap player's earning potential in some way, shape, form, or fashion.

It is going to be a disaster

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

All the pro America talk during the olympics and it seems like so many on here are championing foreign owned auto makers.

Well...they actually make Toyotas here in Kentucky..so..

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

So, when my son was 3, I got to play Pebble Beach. In the pro shop, got him a cool little golf hat.
He had just started playing golf with me. When I gave him the hat, he asked me when we could play there.
I responded when you are a teenager. No mention from him again. Thought that he forgot.

Fast forward to the morning of his 13th birthday. I go to wake him up for school. Wish him a Happy Birthday. He smiles and says, So Dad, I am a teenager now. I respond, Yessir. He then asks, When are we playing Pebble Beach? He never forgot.

We have been out there twice, but no Pebble tee times unless you stay on property (damn expensive). He and I have played Spyglass and Spanish Bay. We have a goal of a boy’s trip to play…hopefully by next year, he will have things straightened out in his life and we can get to fulfill that promise.

Gonna go by and see Pebble and the others along 17 mile drive next month since we will be right there. I will never get to play them because I am a poor guy, but at least I can see them with my own eyes..lol.

 

[volbeast33]

Ranted about it in the Dayne Shor thread. 3* OT with legitimate offers, committed to Bama, but supposedly as a PWO. Also supposedly getting NIL money.

Does that really make sense though? Is Alabama going to pay a guy that Tennessee had backed way off of to sit the bench at Bama….He will probably get some NIL costs but he would have to make 50,000 plus a year to off set a full ride scholarship somewhere else.

 

[volbeast33]

Welcome to the NFL, Najee.

He has hurdles two guys in scrimmages so far and he gained an extra yard and a half on that leap into the defenders chest…. As a Steeler fan, I am hoping that defenders start staying up high like that guy did….. you won’t have much success tackling him without taking out his legs.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I swear I’m not trying to be a Nega Vol, it’s just experience talking: what if none of our QBs are very good? That’s what worries me and makes me think the season has the potential to be awful.

Your doubts are legitimate..just nobody wants to hear it. Everybody wants to believe that for just one dang time..things will fall our way. I'm like you, I doubt they do, so I guess I'm pessimistic about THIS year, but I am really optimistic that these guys can turn us around and get us headed back to respectability if we just have patience...this staff has a very professional air about them...and that gives me hope things can actually get better with time...so see..really I am a sunshine pumper in disguise..

It always amuses me how the same guys that shout you down for being realistic\pessimistic, are the same ones that start screaming for coaches heads as soon as things don't go as swimmingly as they think it was going to.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

The alternative is the richest program rules with no one getting a chance. Is what a pro salary cap tries to prevent. I’m not talking capitalism, I’m concerned with competition. Unfortunately, now they intersect

Manchester City is a frustrating illustration of this. A team with no history at all is purchased by oil sheiks and suddenly they flood the transfer market with cash. Now, few can match what they offer, and they win time and time again. Just wait until corporations start buying championships. You think we have those heavy hitters in Orange?

It will be a disaster..I do not understand how dummies can not see this..it literally blows my mind..

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

You'd think the Sling and Dish people would be all over paying Tennessee. Considering how much they use UT sports in their commercials

According to what I have heard...those guys don't give a crap about UT sports. Other schools have a lot of heavy hitters who are fanatics...we will get buried for good, forever if this turns into an all out, free for all arms race.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I’ve have always said that great, competitive sports leagues are not based around true capitalism. You have to have restrictions in place to create some parity. While there have certainly been runs by several franchises through the years, the NFL is the example. Teams from Buffalo, Nashville, Seattle, Denver, Green Bay, Tampa, Indianapolis, Charlotte, Cincinnati have all been to or won Super Bowls.

Christian does not understand this concept..sports are NOT a normal business.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

According to what I have heard...those guys don't give a crap about UT sports. Other schools have a lot of heavy hitters who are fanatics...we will get buried for good, forever if this turns into an all out, free for all arms race.

Hasn’t it been posted here many times the Dish owner could care less about athletics and is all academic focused?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I don't see this as a good thing. This isn't a walk-on earning a scholarship that deducts against team scholarship counts. This is paying a player and skirting scholarship limits. It's exactly what isn't supposed to happen in CFB but with the way NLI is currently written we will see a ton of this and it will benefit schools like BYU and ND that have religious based support as well as big schools like BAMA. Those on top have an even better chance of staying on top. That walk-on's NLI isn't worth a dime but schools now use it to skirt limits and make CFB as corrupt, or perhaps more, as basketball.

Eventually either a new governing body or the NCAA will have to set rules about what constitutes using your NLI for legitimate purposes vs. companies and boosters using NLI to bribe players and recruits but that's not going to happen until we make a spectacular mess of things.

How did so many people not see this coming? I have said forever that this kind of stuff would be exactly what would happen...it's going to be a disaster for us if somebody doesn't figure this out pretty quickly.

 

[rekinhavoc]

It will be a disaster..I do not understand how dummies can not see this..it literally blows my mind..

Just wait...jealousy,greed,theft,child support, and tax evasion charges. Grades will suffer. Professors will get pissed that their students make more than them. Tuition goes up for everyone else.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Post it in 6 inch headlines….

WE’RE BEATING FLORIDA THIS YEAR.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I don't like getting old, but darn glad my son is now a grown man. I feel bad for all you parents with young kids nowadays. You have to be able to explain the birds and the bees.......the bees and the bees......the birds and the birds..........the birds that used to be bees.....the bees that used to be birds........the birds that look like bees........plus bees that look like birds but still got a stinger!!!!

Lolol..



I hate this stupid freakfest world..

 

[Nashvegas31]

I think you eventually see NIL stuff get more under control when a lot of these business realize their ROI isn’t there in anyone but the big names. It makes sense for some of the small businesses to get name out or for boosters to legally pay a recruit but at some point it will just be the big stars taking in the real cash

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Custer State Park is mostly about wildlife, especially bison. We visited several highly-rated state parks on this trip and Custer has to be the best in the US. Better than many national parks. But then, we love wildlife.

I tried to post a video I took of a bison herd walking right past our truck, which happened several times. But I couldn’t figure it out.

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Loved Custer, hated that we only had a long day for the Black Hills area stuff.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

That is cool..

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Hasn’t it been posted here many times the Dish owner could care less about athletics and is all academic focused?

Yep

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Steve called in to the Brent Hubbs hour just to say “hey fellas you already answered my question well okay fellas”

 

[JCVol00]

Colorado’s starting qb transferred after the spring, so it looks like Shrout is likely going to be the starter there

 

[triadvolfan]

I’ve have always said that great, competitive sports leagues are not based around true capitalism. You have to have restrictions in place to create some parity. While there have certainly been runs by several franchises through the years, the NFL is the example. Teams from Buffalo, Nashville, Seattle, Denver, Green Bay, Tampa, Indianapolis, Charlotte, Cincinnati have all been to or won Super Bowls.

Yeah, there's actually no major sports league that's 'free market' in nature at all. The employment practices break anti-trust rules. Revenue sharing and TV contract negotiations are similar. Sports have been given exemptions that allow them to do things that are illegal in other businesses. All of that helps with competition though as it spreads the talent and money around and I'm not sure pro sports would work without it.

There's always been way less parity in college sports than pro sports. Amateurism was in theory keeping that in check. It seems like the lack of parity will get worse now.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Colorado’s starting qb transferred after the spring, so it looks like Shrout is likely going to be the starter there

good on him.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Steve called in to the Brent Hubbs hour just to say “hey fellas you already answered my question well okay fellas”

I'm sure he's a shut in...with that said. SA needs to screen their calls a bit better.